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Well, with a presidential pardon comes a loss of Fifth Amendment privileges. You can no longer incriminate yourself, after all - you're guilty as sin, everybody knows it. And if you're not forthcoming, off you go for contempt of court - and there's no pardon for that.
Hey, you do know that judges signed off on these, right? Nah, I'm gonna say that you didn't.
Why are you lying? Judges sign arrest warrants, not the manner of arrest. That is up to the prosecutor and the arresting agency. The judge has nothing to do with it. If I were on the Senate Select Intelligence Committee I'd use my five minutes to grill Director Wray on why Stone was arrested that way. Why is he wasting the scarce taxpayer resources we give him for the agency for such things?
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Originally Posted by KindredBorn
The FBI SWAT team arrived in 9 Armored vehicles filled with heavy weapons. What did Roger Stone do? He allegedly lied to a questioner. I certainly do not understand why it took 29 FBI agents armed with heavy weapons and 9 armored vehicles to arrest one white senior citizen.
He allegedly lied to a questioner about underlying behavior that isn't criminal, so why lie? Well maybe he didn't lie, which is to say something you know isn't true, maybe he had a different memory of the timeline. If the questioner was looking for a truth/real story and the question was, "when did you contact XYZ" and Stone answered to the best of his memory, "June 4", but the questioner has an email or phone call record that says it was May 28, the proper protocol is to show the respondent (Stone) the record and ask if that refreshes his memory. Apparently that is not what these questioners from Mueller are doing. They are looking to trap people in process lies without any other predicate or underlying crime. Then they get to use that "crime" as leverage against the respondent. That is what is dirty about this whole process.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
GoFundMe has $72K so far with a $100K goal. Let's hope that's enough to get him a decent lawyer.
$100k is the deposit on defending yourself against the federal government. If Stone doesn't go to trial for 10 to 11 months, his legal bills will be close to $1 million by then, give or take.
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo
My bet is he'll sing like a canary once the harsh reality of jail time and legal fees grabs him by the throat.
Many people facing the threat of hard time, bankruptcy, threats of charges against family members, etc take deals and plead to crimes they didn't commit; others make up details based on what the prosecutor wants to hear to get leniency and possibly a dismissal. It is the white collar version of the jailhouse snitch.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
Well, with a presidential pardon comes a loss of Fifth Amendment privileges. You can no longer incriminate yourself, after all - you're guilty as sin, everybody knows it. And if you're not forthcoming, off you go for contempt of court - and there's no pardon for that.
Of course there can be a pardon for that. It would be a separate pardon from the first, but still pardonable
It's great that Stone is giving lots of interviews now to tell his side of the story. Because of all the publicity, people who have only heard the leftist media propaganda will be curious to watch him and decide for themselves.
If there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia why would Stone be seeking information from Wikileaks?
Huh? What Stone was asked to find out was when WIKILEAKS was going to release the next batch of emails. Why would the Russians know that? That fact that the Russians were the source of those emails has no bearing on when Wikileaks might release them.
Second the Russians interfered in multiple ways. The emails were only a small part of it.
The FBI SWAT team arrived in 9 Armored vehicles filled with heavy weapons. What did Roger Stone do?
He allegedly lied to a questioner.
I certainly do not understand why it took 29 FBI agents armed with heavy weapons and 9 armored vehicles to arrest one white senior citizen.
They send an invasion force to pick him up,
then he's released an hour later on his signature.
Sounds normal, right?
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