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Old 01-26-2019, 04:17 PM
 
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Manduro won the election by 67% of the vote.

Candidates likely to win were not on the ballot and the election was boycotted because of that. It was the lowest turnout in their history. In addition to that there is accusations of fraud. It's not just the US saying he is illegitimate leader but most of the Western world.


There is no way he will survive, it's only a matter of time before that country erupts into civil war.
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Old 01-26-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Candidates likely to win were not allowed to run and the election was boycotted because of that. It was the lowest turnout in their history. In addition to that there is accusations of fraud. It's not just the US saying he is illegitimate leader but most of Western world.
Western world?

What is the western world?

Anyways we are not interested in democracy, we're interested in corporate investment.
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Old 01-26-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Up until Russia making Facebook posts in the 2016 no other country, including the U.S., ever intervened in elections/political machinery of other nations.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Old 01-26-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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Western world?

What is the western world?
If you need this defined for you I'd suggest some more schooling.
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Old 01-26-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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With socialism only those working in the highest levels of government are allowed to profit. That would be Rubio and his ilk. Intervention is a way for a socialist gov. to moonlight and bring in some extra cash. The current system brings in extra cash too, but it gets distributed differently. So its in the hands of the wrong people. Intervention will continue under any system and people like Rubio will always be for it, until they need to be against it, to survive.
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Old 01-26-2019, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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If you need this defined for you I'd suggest some more schooling.
My point is that this concept of the 'western world' is a propaganda term. If you mean members of the G7 (plus the EU) then yes, the western world is against it.

If you include Bolivia, Mexico, the Caribbean, and other nations in the western hemisphere, then no, you are wrong.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:56 PM
 
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Not impressed TC. No matter what happens, the US will take the hit for it. You do realize that Maduro will blame you for everything and anything regardless if it is based in reality. It's a tactic used by developing countries to boost domestic morale.

I don't see the problem with recognizing another leader as the de facto ruler. If it leads to an invasion, then I'll be against it, but as things stand I'm fine with it.

The biggest irony is that the people who criticize the US for intervention are just as interventionist themselves. You are essentially telling Venezuelans to stick with Maduro just to satisfy your own ego. How many of you would be willing to live there?
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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lol, Americans 'care' about the Venezuelan people:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8748201.html
Speaking for myself? I don't give a damn about them. We have 600,000 homeless people of our own to care about. It's time we start to focus within and take care of our own problems.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Speaking for myself? I don't give a damn about them. We have 600,000 homeless people of our own to care about. It's time we start to focus within and take care of our own problems.
It won't happen, the government has too much to gain from intervening in venezuela.
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Old 01-26-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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It won't happen, the government has too much to gain from intervening in venezuela.
Or maybe it will end up playing like the Korean summit.
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