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Old 01-27-2019, 04:00 AM
 
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This is what Republicans have been striving for, private schools. That’s what Betsy Devos got appointed for (breaking down the public school system) Sorry Republicans, we like the system we have now. Maybe if the Liar in Chief would quit pushing for the wall that mexico was supposed to pay for, we might have enough in the budget to make some infrastructure improvements.
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:06 AM
 
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Sorry Republicans, we like the system we have now.

To reiterate what I posted previously, on average the US spends more per student than most other nations. The few nations that spend more are small rich ones like Switzerland. With that in mind the results are acceptable?
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:15 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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http://www.nea.org/assets/docs/18041...eport_2018.pdf

OPINION | Why This Is the Year to Begin Addressing the Infrastructure Deficit

697 billion a year spent on intangible education and about 4 trillion to have a first-rate infrastructure and close the deficient roads, bridges, airports, water, sewers and have first-rate state-of the art infrastructure.

Infrastructure is tangible. The 697 billion dollar spent on education is basically just very expensive employees talking in a room of a dozen or two hoping that those in the room will be interested enough to remember a bit of it.

If they completely eliminated government spending on a intangible service like schools where long-term results can't be measured and instead spent it on bread and butter, tangible physical infrastructure jobs they could eliminate the $4 trillion infrastructure gap in about 6 years.

By 2025, there would be a whole new first-rate infrastructure instead of wasting money on public schools which are nothing than a free childcare provider for the parents.

I agree in that the federal government has no business in education. It should be up to the states individually and states like CA would find their public indoctrination centers unaffordable sans federal tax money. Foreign aid is another area that could be gutted and aid to illegal aliens is up there as well. Medical, financial and in education big time.
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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You dont know anything about public education. Privatizing education would make us a dumber country.
I think this statement is demonstrably untrue. In fact, all of the evidence is to the contrary.

When it comes to education, private-schools do a better job than public schools. And home-schooled children are the best-educated of all.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ational-tests/
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I criticize public schools because of the way they are run, I do not criticize public funding of education. Publicly funded education is one of the reasons for the huge success of this country. We have enough idiots in this country, we don't need more of them.
The public-education system has been incredibly successful, but not for the reasons most people think.

To understand the public-education, you need to understand why it was created in the first place.

In simplest-terms, the public-education system was created in the 1800's by the capitalists to create workers for the factories. And further, it gives parents a place to send their kids while they are at work. If a parent didn't have a place to send his child while they were at work, they wouldn't be able to go to work, and that would hurt the economy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omx5KrRVkMc

The public-school system was also necessary for making our country into a country. Because by bringing people together from all backgrounds, you assimilate them into a single society. If people were all educated privately. It would create a de-facto segregation of society, largely by religious and ancestral affiliations(E.G. Catholic schools).

People often claim for instance that "homeschooled children aren't socialized". Which is largely false, since homeschooled children often have better social-relations than people who go to public schools. The real problem with homeschooled children, is much like the Amish. It isn't that the Amish aren't socialized, it is that they are culturally-foreign. So they don't "fit-in" with the rest of us, they are weird, because they haven't been assimilated.


Or put simply, nations require a public-education system. The first thing America does when we try to "nation-build" in other countries, is to build public schools. Not to educate the people, but to bring them together as a nation.

If America abolished its public-education system, America would cease to exist.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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http://www.nea.org/assets/docs/18041...eport_2018.pdf

OPINION | Why This Is the Year to Begin Addressing the Infrastructure Deficit

697 billion a year spent on intangible education and about 4 trillion to have a first-rate infrastructure and close the deficient roads, bridges, airports, water, sewers and have first-rate state-of the art infrastructure.

Infrastructure is tangible. The 697 billion dollar spent on education is basically just very expensive employees talking in a room of a dozen or two hoping that those in the room will be interested enough to remember a bit of it.

If they completely eliminated government spending on a intangible service like schools where long-term results can't be measured and instead spent it on bread and butter, tangible physical infrastructure jobs they could eliminate the $4 trillion infrastructure gap in about 6 years.

By 2025, there would be a whole new first-rate infrastructure instead of wasting money on public schools which are nothing than a free childcare provider for the parents.
Maybe in Texas public schools are free daycare. Not so anyplace i’ve lived.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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http://www.nea.org/assets/docs/18041...eport_2018.pdf

OPINION | Why This Is the Year to Begin Addressing the Infrastructure Deficit

697 billion a year spent on intangible education and about 4 trillion to have a first-rate infrastructure and close the deficient roads, bridges, airports, water, sewers and have first-rate state-of the art infrastructure.

Infrastructure is tangible. The 697 billion dollar spent on education is basically just very expensive employees talking in a room of a dozen or two hoping that those in the room will be interested enough to remember a bit of it.

If they completely eliminated government spending on a intangible service like schools where long-term results can't be measured and instead spent it on bread and butter, tangible physical infrastructure jobs they could eliminate the $4 trillion infrastructure gap in about 6 years.

By 2025, there would be a whole new first-rate infrastructure instead of wasting money on public schools which are nothing than a free childcare provider for the parents.
LOL, I think you're going to love living abroad.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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On average the US spends more per student than most Western nations, the few that spend more are typically small rich ones like Switzerland. With that in mind are you happy with the results?
Overall? Yes. Are there areas where there are problems? Absolutely. Will no longer funding that, make it better? You'll need to explain that one to me.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:35 AM
 
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I think this statement is demonstrably untrue. In fact, all of the evidence is to the contrary.

When it comes to education, private-schools do a better job than public schools. And home-schooled children are the best-educated of all.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ational-tests/
Home schooled students have more emotional issues and can not mesh with society as well.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Home schooled students have more emotional issues and can not mesh with society as well.
More emotional issues? And, why don't they mesh with society as well?

Homeschooled kids aren't American. They are foreigners, because they weren't assimilated by the public-education system. They haven't associated with people outside their group(usually family, friends, congregants of their church, etc). They don't know anything about the world outside of their small circle.

And the main reason people homeschool their children, is to "protect them from bad influences"(IE keep them away from American culture). So they area bunch of sheltered kids who don't "fit in". They are basically like the Amish. A bunch of weirdos(at least, so it would seem to the rest of us).

America could pay all it's infrastructure issues in less then 6 years if stop funding government schools
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