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View Poll Results: Do you think the Jussie Smollett Attack was a hoax ?
Yes 503 92.63%
No 41 7.55%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 543. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-15-2019, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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You bring up a good point. Another reason I don't think any Nigerians did this is because they don't even really know the history of race in this country. I just don't think a Nigerian would think, "Hey, let's tie a noose around this guy's neck to make it seem like a white person did this!" They are not invested in our race politics like that. And black American men would just beat him up. Props wouldn't be necessary. That is just not how black people fight. This entire arc is highly implausible, culturally.

I don't buy this "alternative" story at all. It's just something put out there to assuage guilt and shame.
Guilt and shame of whom for what?

 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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I warned people to wait for the facts to come out.

Now we have...

-no MAGA hats were worn says Smoletts so was it him lying or the media lying? I'm seriously doubting some of the other claims too at this point but police are getting to the bottom of this wierd case and will bring charges if it turns out to be false.
-Nigerian brothers, one of which he knew and has been on the TV show he's on
-claimed they were white? Um, even with a ski mask on...you can tell if someone is white or black.

But wait, they knew where to find him....so how EXACTLY did they know he'd be out at 2AM where he was?

Again, I'll wait. I have my suspicions but will refrain from speculating...wait for the facts and all that.
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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How embarrassing for those Nigerian white supremacist Trump supporters that they clearly spend a lot of time in the gym, and all they managed to do was give Jussie one little scratch that isn't as deep as some shaving nicks men get.
Right? I got sucker-punched by some crazy homeless guy on the subway platform at 23rd and 7th Ave one night. Blacked one eye and split both top and bottom lip. He was one dude, and had way less muscle than this duo. If Smollet wanted this to seem real, he'd have to learn what a real punch feels like, lol.


Were the two Nigerians really on a plane, and did it really get turned around mid-flight?
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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Right? I got sucker-punched by some crazy homeless guy on the subway platform at 23rd and 7th Ave one night. Blacked one eye and split both top and bottom lip. He was one dude, and had way less muscle than this duo. If he wanted this to seem real, he'd have to learn what a real punch feels like, lol.


Were the two Nigerians really on a plane, and did it really get turned around mid-flight?

My understanding is they returned from their trip and were picked up by police.
The suspect was clearly in Nigeria according to his instagram postings:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtWK2zBH..._web_copy_link
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I warned people to wait for the facts to come out.

Now we have...

-no MAGA hats were worn says Smoletts so was it him lying or the media lying? I'm seriously doubting some of the other claims too at this point but police are getting to the bottom of this wierd case and will bring charges if it turns out to be false.
-Nigerian brothers, one of which he knew and has been on the TV show he's on
-claimed they were white? Um, even with a ski mask on...you can tell if someone is white or black.

But wait, they knew where to find him....so how EXACTLY did they know he'd be out at 2AM where he was?

Again, I'll wait. I have my suspicions but will refrain from speculating...wait for the facts and all that.
I don't know what he said on GMA, but Jussie never said that they were white. He also did not say they were wearing MAGA hats. He stated only that they said, "This is MAGA country", and that was not in the initial police report, it was added the next day.

The media and those who have bias are the ones who assumed that meant "white people wearing MAGA hats".

It was noted early on in this that he didn't say what race they were because they were covered up (ski masks, due to the cold, etc.)

If he changed any of that on GMA - well, then there's no doubt that he lied, but before that, it was the media who added in their own details, and/or those who felt the need to start lecturing the entire country on a fake crime.
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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I warned people to wait for the facts to come out.

Now we have...

-no MAGA hats were worn says Smoletts so was it him lying or the media lying? I'm seriously doubting some of the other claims too at this point but police are getting to the bottom of this wierd case and will bring charges if it turns out to be false.
-Nigerian brothers, one of which he knew and has been on the TV show he's on
-claimed they were white? Um, even with a ski mask on...you can tell if someone is white or black.

But wait, they knew where to find him....so how EXACTLY did they know he'd be out at 2AM where he was?

Again, I'll wait. I have my suspicions but will refrain from speculating...wait for the facts and all that.

In fairness, he has never publicly stated the race of the attackers in the police report or in his limited public statements.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ce-report.html
He strongly implied that they were white in the GMA interview and TMZ has reported that unnamed "sources" close to him described the attackers as white. But, he has never explicitly stated that.

Also, I don't know where the MAGA hat stories came from. I think that was just random social media chatter. I don't think even TMZ ever reported that.


But, yeah, how did they know he was going to be out at 2am right by the back door to his apt?
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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https://twitter.com/AJGuglielmi/stat...81969251573760
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:47 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/RaferWeigel/stat...83040669605894
 
Old 02-15-2019, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I translate that to: "You idiot media! What you were told was in confidence, you weren't supposed to splash it all over the news and on social media! You're going to ruin this investigation when the perps catch wind that we're on to them. Now we can't share anything else because you all can't keep your yaps shut."

I don't care if that turns out to be wrong, that's how I'm interpreting it.
 
Old 02-15-2019, 07:00 PM
 
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wonder what's going through this stooge of a writer's head right now?

The Racist, Homophobic Attack on Jussie Smollett Is Far-Right America's Endgame | GQ
What was ever going through his or her head? Of course they have to say 'possible hate crime' until that is proven. 'Battered Body'. Good Lord.
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