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Old 02-02-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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My, oh my.

Trump supporters claiming that their opponents are “science deniers”.
^^^^This coming from someone who refuses to believe that we don't have unlimited potable water and buildable land.

How many people will be too many for you? 1 billion? 2 billion? For example, India has over 1 billion people and Bangalore doesn't have enough potable water. I want better than that for my descendants. The question is --- why don't you want the same for yours?
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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I agree, but we're also the most innovative. We thrive through innovation and capitalism. We need to stop the left from hampering capitalism so we can overcome this phase through innovation.


I'm all for changing immigration policies, but it's not going to have a significant impact on environmental destruction. Our largest opportunity for this is for fixing our problems from within.
Hmmm....currently we allow into this country 1 million legal immigrants and untold numbers of illegal aliens on an annual basis.

It does, indeed, have "a significant impact on environment destruction". We are losing green space and farm land to housing developments. All those people do need places to live. Many will also need cars to get around. The more people, the more demand on our natural resources. Seriously, we don't have unlimited potable water and buildable land. Phoenix and Tucson rely on underground aquifers for their potable water. Some years back, the CBS Evening News had a story about that issue. Experts they talked to said no one knows how much water their is in those aquifers. Now, that's scary thought. Yet they keep building more and more housing in those areas. Talk about ignorant behavior!
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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^^^^This coming from someone who refuses to believe that we don't have unlimited potable water and buildable land.

How many people will be too many for you? 1 billion? 2 billion? For example, India has over 1 billion people and Bangalore doesn't have enough potable water. I want better than that for my descendants. The question is --- why don't you want the same for yours?
Hold this L
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:10 PM
 
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14 pages in and still no one has answered my question, as always happens in these illegal immigration threads: from where will we get the water for all these people who mostly settle in the West and Southwest United States, places already running short on water? Who has a plan to deal with this looming environmental catastrophe?
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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I agree, but we're also the most innovative. We thrive through innovation and capitalism. We need to stop the left from hampering capitalism so we can overcome this phase through innovation.


I'm all for changing immigration policies, but it's not going to have a significant impact on environmental destruction. Our largest opportunity for this is for fixing our problems from within.
Er, these immigrants become part of the "within."

Your first part is the usual secular-humanist "Human beings will always invent/contrive solutions to the problems we create" fantasy. That always works until it doesn't. "Hey, we destroyed thousands of species, but in the future we'll just invent a way to bring them all back through DNA or something!" "Hey, the oceans are going to be ruined, but we'll just figure out a way to un-ruin them in the future!"
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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14 pages in and still no one has answered my question, as always happens in these illegal immigration threads: from where will we get the water for all these people who mostly settle in the West and Southwest United States, places already running short on water? Who has a plan to deal with this looming environmental catastrophe?
William Shatner had the brilliant idea to appropriate the waters from the Columbia River. Epic fail. Washington and Oregon depend on the mighty Columbia for shipping, agriculture, recreation and our salmon. Besides, I believe that Canada has a treaty which would prevent this. A pipe dream.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...420-story.html
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:59 PM
 
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William Shatner had the brilliant idea to appropriate the waters from the Columbia River. Epic fail. Washington and Oregon depend on the mighty Columbia for shipping, agriculture, recreation and our salmon. Besides, I believe that Canada has a treaty which would prevent this. A pipe dream.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...420-story.html
I am heartened at the thought of putting the fate of mankind in the hands of Captain Kirk. He did save the humpback whales that one time, right?
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:02 PM
 
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I am heartened at the thought of putting the fate of mankind in the hands of Captain Kirk. He did save the humpback whales that one time, right?
No, but he will a few hundred years from now.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:07 PM
 
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I am heartened at the thought of putting the fate of mankind in the hands of Captain Kirk. He did save the humpback whales that one time, right?
Yes, I remember. But, the real Captain Kirk was more pragmatic. And, he had Spock to steer him away from impractical follies.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:21 PM
 
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14 pages in and still no one has answered my question, as always happens in these illegal immigration threads: from where will we get the water for all these people who mostly settle in the West and Southwest United States, places already running short on water? Who has a plan to deal with this looming environmental catastrophe?
This isn't an illegal immigrant thread. It's about immigration in general and general environmental destruction in the United States.

Illegal immigration needs to be stopped. And it's not because of water concerns.

But general environmental destruction also needs to be slowed down. And that has little to do with immigration.
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