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Old 02-03-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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I think Medicare is closer to 3% total admin...PLUS, the savings they get for quantity discounts (on operations, rooms, etc.)......

So these "Good Samaritans" are paying 10X (1000%) more in fees than it costs when done by the big bad gubment.

And they brag about it? I guess, in the end, they think "well, that 10X overcharge is going to Christians, at least"......

Of course, they have no way of knowing the inside deal. We already know some of the companies have lied and deceived such as when they promoted the 24/7 800 number which was a "community public safety" line.

Sucking us dry....these god-fearing masses.

Among the most federally dependent states - AL, MS, SC, LA, KY, WV.....
ALL of them have certain things in common.....
I dunno. Do you people even have a third-grade education in math? My monthly premium is $495 with no deductible for a family of seven in a self-sufficient program compared to a comparable $1400/month 0bummercare bill with a $6000 deductible. 0bummercare has cost taxpayers $2 billion so far. Where in the HELL is all that money going? Don't you leftwingers ever ask that? Or is it because you are part of the 47% who don't pay taxes?

 
Old 02-03-2019, 09:47 PM
 
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I did, and there are bad reviews.
Could you link a review where Samaritan didn't cover a claim they agreed to in the bylaws?

Bet not.

Most likely it will be that same wimpy guy whining about all the paperwork.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 09:47 PM
 
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I dunno. Do you people even have a third-grade education in math? My monthly premium is $495 with no deductible for a family of seven in a self-sufficient program compared to a comparable $1400/month 0bummercare bill with a $6000 deductible. 0bummercare has cost taxpayers $2 billion so far. Where in the HELL is all that money going? Don't you leftwingers ever ask that? Or is it because you are part of the 47% who don't pay taxes?
I would only wish you and yours the best, and hope that you never find out why your premiums are so low.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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You never provided proof to back up your lie that the “irreligious are far more likely to lie”.

It would seem you’ve disproven your own statement in that very sentence....

If only NJmann were here, it’d make for one hell of a thread. Lol.
Well of course the irreligious lie more. They lack the standards of behavior that practicing Christians have. I don't even see why this is debatable.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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Well of course the irreligious lie more. They lack the standards of behavior that practicing Christians have. I don't even see why this is debatable.
So you can’t prove that claim? Sounds like you’re blatantly lying. Weird.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 09:54 PM
 
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Of course, there is no "religious test" to give most of the other criminals, but it's probably safe to say that religiosity correlates with poverty - and poverty with crime - so if we were to measure Criminals from more Christian backgrounds against those from non-religious (or other religions), we'd probably see many more of the flock.
So why do you suppose the vast majority of all incarcerated criminals are irreligious, then? Hmm. Puzzling
 
Old 02-03-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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I dunno. Do you people even have a third-grade education in math? My monthly premium is $495 with no deductible for a family of seven in a self-sufficient program compared to a comparable $1400/month 0bummercare bill with a $6000 deductible. 0bummercare has cost taxpayers $2 billion so far. Where in the HELL is all that money going? Don't you leftwingers ever ask that? Or is it because you are part of the 47% who don't pay taxes?
How dare you sit there and call the rest of us liars! And grow up--learn that it's called the ACA or even Obamacare, not Obummercare. We did go to school, thank you very much. And if you have a way of getting out of paying taxes, as you accuse us of doing, let us know, please.

BTW, your plan doesn't make much sense and we're not buying it from you or from anyone. Most of us want a guarantee that our health insurance will be there when we need it.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 10:07 PM
 
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You know so much of the ins and outs of this group, makes me wonder.
Um, well, I AM a member.

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Anyway, groups like this want to keep it all for themselves and prevent the rest of us from having things like universal health care.
Repeat after me: "Insurance is not welfare". Also maybe you missed the ten times where I pointed out 92.5% of the payments go to other members and not the home office.

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You skim off the healthy people with no pre-existing conditions and you make a lot of money at it.
Well, I wouldn't say I make a lot of money at it, unless you mean I SAVE a lot of money, which I do.

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Meanwhile those same people could be paying in with the rest of the American citizens to a decent, compassionate health care system. You people are just trying to undermine it so we can never get there.
Is it really compassion when people are coerced under penalty of law to pay for a bunch of immoral garbage like birth control for single women who shouldn't be having sex anyway?
 
Old 02-03-2019, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Really? You're griping about $10 million when 0bamacare has cost taxpayers $2 BILLION? Perhaps you can explain to me how the $495 I pay for my family plan is 'twice as expensive' as the $1400 a month I was going to have to pay for a similar 0bamacare policy that had a $6000 deductible. And that doesn't include the taxes I had to pay to keep that scam operating.
I would be glad to explain. You seem like a smart person so you no doubt understand the difference between a percentage and an absolute value. 33% of your premiums are going for overhead. In Obamacare, it is less than 15%. Since Obamacare is 100,000 times bigger than your fund, it is pointless to talk about absolute numbers, you have to talk about percentages.

And there is no such thing as a "similar Obamacare" policy - Samaritans excludes many conditions that Obamacare does not. But beyond that it is not really about you, it is about everyone else. When we pay for a policy like ACA we are not only paying for our family to be covered, but also making it possible that all other families will be covered because we are creating a big enough pool to cover everything. This should appeal to a Christian since you will then be caring for your fellow human beings, something that Jesus emphasized.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 10:19 PM
 
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So you deny that 1/3 of this "money sent to other members" is waylaid for paying the people who set up the scheme?

Yes, this is a ridiculous lying claim that even a fifth grader could see doesn't make mathematical sense. You have 80,000 members, each paying an average of $3600 a year. That's roughly 288,000,000. And you're claiming they keep $100 million??

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Please - address that slowly and carefully so we can understand. Medicare spends 2-3% on overhead. Most Insurance companies in the area of 8-12% - I think 14% is the max allowed in our state on health insurance.

But you claim that paying 30% or more.......is a deal?
OK, I'll address it slowly: "W-h-o w-a-s y-o-u-r m-a-t-h t-e-a-c-h-e-r-?
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