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Old 02-04-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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What is exactly meant by a "separate state for black Americans?"

Does this infer the following;
1. The majority or all of the population would be black?
2. 100% Self Sufficiency?
3. Complete control of the natural resources, industries, etc.?
4. No taxes imposed on the residents to support any people outside the area?
5. 100% control over the media?
6. Their own military?
7. 100% control over the educational system?

In essence, we are talking about vertical integration in all industries whereby there is control over production/manufacturing, storage, delivery, retail, etc.

For example, if we are talking about agriculture, then there would be control over land, the water for the land, the fertilizer for the land, control over natural forests, control over the fish in the water, etc.

But, is this not the re-invention of the wheel? All of this existed before!

There were civilizations that existed that had all of this.

Can equality exist within the group of separated people? Can equality exist between the separated peoples?

Can there be rich without poor? Can there be poor without rich?

All of this is relative!

A key consideration is the type of economic system that will exist - Capitalism or Socialism or a hybrid of the two.

Or would there be a movement away from private land ownership towards a more communal type of existence?

In the interim, the "separate state" will have to continually be the family!

A family comprised of one man and one woman with a God-given purpose that instill strong character and values into the children, a family who promotes excellence in education, a family who promotes healthy eating habits, a family who nurture the children apart from the outside world on a daily basis!

A family who manages the negative portrayals of black Americans on the television and/or radio by "filtering" content continuously i.e. turning off the television/radio.

A family who consciously spends their collective income - investing/spending with merchants who are truly supportive of their customers' welfare.
I suppose a separate state for some Blacks might include some American cities where the White man is less than 50% of the population of the city proper.
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Old 02-04-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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When racists hold positions of power, we tend to pay attention to them. Not just Farrakhan, but David Duke, Richard Spencer, etc. Hell, look at how much attention that Northam guy generated. It is funny to me that you think black racists should be held to a different standard than white racists.

Plus, it always generates a little more attention when the racist is affiliated with the Democratic Party, since so many of their members are quick to call conservatives racist, yet turn a blind eye to their own people.

You all only pay attention to them because they are on the news. None of the people you mention hold any position of power except maybe in the past David Duke, I know he ran for some political position.



Personally I've consistently been one of the main black posters that have stated that Farrakhan is indeed a racist and that black people can be racist. However, I do not keep up with him, nor do I keep up with David Duke or Richard Spencer. I also am not concerned about any of them because I don't buy into propaganda from Fox News that they "hold positions of power." They don't.



I also have personally been consistent on the fact that racism is in both major political parties in America and that neither is better than the other on this issue so you should quote someone else's post to spew your regurgitated come backs.



Facts are you wouldn't know anything about him either if you didn't pay attention to fear mongers trying to tell you that Farrakhan is out to get you lol. If anything, I should be more afraid of him since he is much more entrenched in some black communities and has a "program" for us. He doesn't include white people in his programming and he's actually aligned himself with the KKK and/or other racist organizations in the past because he and they are both the same kind of crazy.
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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You all only pay attention to them because they are on the news. None of the people you mention hold any position of power except maybe in the past David Duke, I know he ran for some political position.



Personally I've consistently been one of the main black posters that have stated that Farrakhan is indeed a racist and that black people can be racist. However, I do not keep up with him, nor do I keep up with David Duke or Richard Spencer. I also am not concerned about any of them because I don't buy into propaganda from Fox News that they "hold positions of power." They don't.



I also have personally been consistent on the fact that racism is in both major political parties in America and that neither is better than the other on this issue so you should quote someone else's post to spew your regurgitated come backs.



Facts are you wouldn't know anything about him either if you didn't pay attention to fear mongers trying to tell you that Farrakhan is out to get you lol. If anything, I should be more afraid of him since he is much more entrenched in some black communities and has a "program" for us. He doesn't include white people in his programming and he's actually aligned himself with the KKK and/or other racist organizations in the past because he and they are both the same kind of crazy.
On the one hand, you say he doesn’t have a position of power, and then you go on to say

“If anything, I should be more afraid of him since he is much more entrenched in some black communities and has a "program" for us.”

“A position of power” is relative, but anyone who has a significant number of devoted followers, and a platform to spread his/her message, is in a position of power.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There is an entire continent called Africa they go to. That way they can complain over there
Haiti is closer and is black. They could save on transportation.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:19 PM
 
Location: The 719
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So are the ones who believe that God wrote a book.
Manifest a Universe, no prob. Write (inspire) a book? Blasphemy!
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:20 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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When racists hold positions of power, we tend to pay attention to them. Not just Farrakhan, but David Duke, Richard Spencer, etc. Hell, look at how much attention that Northam guy generated. It is funny to me that you think black racists should be held to a different standard than white racists.

Plus, it always generates a little more attention when the racist is affiliated with the Democratic Party, since so many of their members are quick to call conservatives racist, yet turn a blind eye to their own people.
All true racists should be held to the same standards. Unfort not the case.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan called for a separate state for Black Americans in an Instagram video posted on Thursday, saying that’s “what God wants” while those opposed he described as “slaves.”

https://www.foxnews.com/us/louis-far...what-god-wants

Farrakhan is a slick talker. Not afraid to say how he really feels. Quite enjoyable to listen too.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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On the one hand, you say he doesn’t have a position of power, and then you go on to say

“If anything, I should be more afraid of him since he is much more entrenched in some black communities and has a "program" for us.”

“A position of power” is relative, but anyone who has a significant number of devoted followers, and a platform to spread his/her message, is in a position of power.

I agree on the bold. For me, he holds no position of power.



Also, the NOI is not that large of a group. Last I saw they have about 800k members out of 40 million black people. That is very small so they are not significant to me.



My "if anything" comment was to show you that you have nothing to fear with Farrakhan. If anyone should be afraid of him, it would be the remaining 39.2 million black people - not whites. He has never done anything to white people or Jews.



And FWIW he's done nothing "bad" to black people either, which is why I don't pay attention to him. Seems conservative media pays more attention to him that black people do.
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