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Yup. The anti-Semite also called Jews termites, Satan's children, devils, etc., and wished for them all to be dead. Any criticism of him by Jews is well-deserved.
I prefer "God's little troublemakers" personally. Descriptive and to-the-point without being overly nasty or genocidal.
As I noted on another thread, Farrakhan really isn't all that popular in black America. He is more popular with whites and Jews it seems. Angela Davis is probably just as well known to us as him and her being slighted like she was by Jews in her hometown of Birmingham where she and her neighborhood were literally terrorized when she was a child, just for being outspoken and in support of Palestinian rights, that was pretty negatively taken by a lot of black people and it was in many major news outlets, including NPR. It is especially a slap in the face due to this award being named in honor of Fred Shuttlesworth - who was a black Civil Rights Activists that she personally knew! (this brings to many black people's minds the idea that Jews are trying to control our organizations or who should be so "honored" as black people in America).
The rescinding of the award was directly due to Jews on the board of that committee not liking her comments about Palestinians and trying to claim she was an anti-semite. This has been done quite a few times in the past couple years that I remember as I noted with Alice Walker as well along with some black media figures.
This award being rescinded in such a public way is similar for us in regards to the OP in particular of Farrakhan being given membership in a private black organization. As I noted earlier, I don't think he should have been given a membership because he did not earn it and failed to make it when he was a young man. Most BGLO fraternities don't give "honorary" memberships (saw a lot of playful banter from my Alpha family members and Kappas - even some Sigmas lol - most of my family are Alpha Phi Alpha and I know that neither they nor Kappa Alpha Psi give out "honorary memberships" you have to earn a membership). Because of this situation, I actually do feel that a similar policy may be adopted in the future by Omega Psi Phi over Farrakhan's admission - as noted, they will handle it within their organization. But to think that black people should just do what Jews want us to do with our own organizations - or to leave/abolish those organizations because some Jewish person is offended (like the OP implies several times throughout this thread) is silly.
I am really trying to understand what you mean by all of this. It is a little troubling to me that the only reason you think Farrakhan shouldn’t be a member is because he didn’t earn it. The fact that he is constantly making hateful and bigoted comments about another ethnic group doesn’t bother you at all? I am not telling anyone who they can or cant have as a leader, I just dont understand the tolerance you have, or the admiration that the leadership of this fraternity has, for such a person. I mean, when someone says they wish black people would die, or calls them derogatory names, I think that person is a disgusting human being. It doesnt matter to me if the person is Jewish or Christian, they are still a scumbag to me. So I am trying to understand why many in the black community dont see the same in Farrakhan.
And if you are trying to use the Angela Davis situation to justify Farrakhan, then can I use Farrakhan to justify the Angela Davis situation? Do we get anywhere if we do that? Does that sow the seeds of harmony or disharmony? Instead of saying both situations are justified, aren’t we all better off saying neither is?
I am really trying to understand what you mean by all of this. It is a little troubling to me that the only reason you think Farrakhan shouldn’t be a member is because he didn’t earn it. The fact that he is constantly making hateful and bigoted comments about another ethnic group doesn’t bother you at all? I am not telling anyone who they can or cant have as a leader, I just dont understand the tolerance you have, or the admiration that the leadership of this fraternity has, for such a person. I mean, when someone says they wish black people would die, or calls them derogatory names, I think that person is a disgusting human being. It doesnt matter to me if the person is Jewish or Christian, they are still a scumbag to me. So I am trying to understand why many in the black community dont see the same in Farrakhan.
And if you are trying to use the Angela Davis situation to justify Farrakhan, then can I use Farrakhan to justify the Angela Davis situation? Do we get anywhere if we do that? Does that sow the seeds of harmony or disharmony? Instead of saying both situations are justified, aren’t we all better off saying neither is?
Use Farrakhan to justify Angela Davis? Whaaaaaaaaaat? This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Thinking that you should have carte blanche to push African Americans around and tell us who is and isn’t worthy of our respect!
When Angela Davis was dealing with being a black child growing up in Birmingham, what exactly were the local Jews going through? You tell me!
I know one thing for sure: the local leading rabbi signed onto that damn letter (with his white Christian clergy counterparts) basically telling Dr King that his planned activities in Birmingham weren’t a good idea, and he should abandon his methods locally.
So you’re really gonna sit here and tell black folks that there’s justification in going after Angela Davis when she’s never uttered an anti Jewish word publicly in her life?
Use Farrakhan to justify Angela Davis? Whaaaaaaaaaat? This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Thinking that you should have carte blanche to push African Americans around and tell us who is and isn’t worthy of our respect!
When Angela Davis was dealing with being a black child growing up in Birmingham, what exactly were the local Jews going through? You tell me!
I know one thing for sure: the local leading rabbi signed onto that damn letter (with his white Christian clergy counterparts) basically telling Dr King that his planned activities in Birmingham weren’t a good idea, and he should abandon his methods locally.
So you’re really gonna sit here and tell black folks that there’s justification in going after Angela Davis when she’s never uttered an anti Jewish word publicly in her life?
Use Farrakhan to justify Angela Davis? Whaaaaaaaaaat? This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Thinking that you should have carte blanche to push African Americans around and tell us who is and isn’t worthy of our respect!
When Angela Davis was dealing with being a black child growing up in Birmingham, what exactly were the local Jews going through? You tell me!
I know one thing for sure: the local leading rabbi signed onto that damn letter (with his white Christian clergy counterparts) basically telling Dr King that his planned activities in Birmingham weren’t a good idea, and he should abandon his methods locally.
So you’re really gonna sit here and tell black folks that there’s justification in going after Angela Davis when she’s never uttered an anti Jewish word publicly in her life?
Dope or dog food?
Sorry, but Farrakhan is not worthy of your respect. Amazing that this is even a question.
And Jews should be free to criticize Farrakhan, who, after all, wants them dead, along with black groups who honor or praise him. I could turn this around and say that black folks shouldn't bully Jews into keeping their mouths shut when a Hitler-type is given an honor.
No, that wasn’t the point you were making. The point you were making is that the Jewish community should have dominion over the black community.
So is that the root of the problem? A Jew (yoirs truly) dared to criticize an influential black organization for honoring Farrakhan - and somehow this has been interpreted into Jews wanting to hold dominion over blacks?
Sorry, but I will criticize any group who gives an award to Farrakhan.
I don't know. In some states (including mine) voters do not even register by party, so the question is hardly dispositive. Farrakhan has close ties to several Democratic members of Congress. Do you deny that?
I don't know; I highly doubt it. But by your 'logic' the answer would have to be yes.
It should be easy for you to provide one example then, just one. BTW I am a moderate Democrat, not a Republican.
The 'Southern Strategy' has been shown to be a myth.
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Moderate Democrat?
Staaaaaaahp. You’re being silly.
The Southern Strategy is a myth?
Know what? Move on. Your damn eyeballs are turning brown.
So in other words, you can't answer my questions, or provide any examples to back up your accusations. No surprise there. You love to demand answers to your questions, but not to answer them. No surprise.
Yes, the "Southern Strategy" is a big myth. It is most often linked to Nixon. When Nixon took office in 1969, 70% of Southern black children still attended 100% segregated schools. When he left in 1974, that number had declined from 70% to 8%. According to liberal NYT columnist Tom Wicker, the credit for this change all lay with Nixon and several of his top aides, including Atty. Gen. John Mitchell, who got around to enforcing the 1954 Brown v. Bd. ruling that had been ignored by JFK and LBJ.
Now you please explain to me why a 'Southern Strategist' would pursue a full-frontal assault on school segregation? Nothing was more near and dear to the hearts of Southern segregationists than school segregation. Google the 'Southern Manifesto' and educate yourself.
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