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Not to mention I've seen guys who after doing their own oil changes, dump the used oil down the sewer drain. Same for flushing radiators, winterizing lawn mowers, etc.
Correct. I mean, there’s a such thing about being vigilant about taxes, and then there’s just being stupid. This tax is probably half the cost of a Netflix subscription.
A tax for clean water that I surely helped pollute hardly seems irrational. The reaction to it by some of these posters is beyond irrational and has went over the line to retarded.
Hey fellas...take your cup down to the local river and have a swig.
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I think it's the absurdity of trying to blame the miles and miles and miles of road salt on 30 foot driveways!
NJ should be taxing everyone that use the roads, not just homeowners and businesses they think have deep pockets.
I think they are have you seen the tolls for the Parkway or Turnpike.....
My bigger concern as I saw here was are they really using the collected monies for runoff related projects or is it just another cash grab for the black hole better known as the general fund....
I was paying that tax in NC over a decade ago. The most ridiculous part was that it was strictly based on on the impervious surface area on your property, with no regard for the amount of property, so a 2000 sq ft house on a 5000 sq ft lot was taxed the same as a 2000 sq ft house on ten acres of woodland.
The impenetrable surface is usually where a lot of the nasty stuff gets washed right down into the drains from.
I’ve been in the desert most of my life so I’m not familiar with all the lawn care stuff or what might get washed into the woodlands. Out here, the big thing is Roundup, and I try to spray it directly on the weeds that sprout up unlike a lot of people around Arizona that SOAK their yards in it. There oughta be a prohibition on doing that because during monsoon season, all that crap gets washed into the system. And Roundup is extremely nasty stuff.
I probably have a greater appreciation for water than most people because we have so little of it around here. If it were up to me, I wouldn’t even allow private swimming pools in this state and I’d cut way down on golf courses by half. Decorative Water fountains would be banned.
The bill, approved by the New Jersey Assembly and the Senate, would allow municipalities to create utilities that can collect fees from homeowners and business owners that have large paved surfaces, like driveways and parking lots. During storms, rainwater mixes with pollutants on those surfaces before running into sewers and drains.
This is standard utility practice here. Just an added fee to our water bill for water runoff regardless of surface area....I ran a drain from each of my downspouts to the street as well as the sump pump. If I'm paying they are getting every drop.....
IL (Chicago area, in particular) is big on tolls, and you know... I've never had a problem with that. User pays. How is that not fair?
Ownership;
Roads- If privately owned, ownership would be responsible for any negative outcomes related to them. In this case environmental damage from runoff into the sewer system.
Sewers-If privately owned, ownership would be responsible for what flowed through the sewer pipes and any negative outcomes related to them. It would behoove ownership to pay attention as to what went in as well as what flowed out or suffer the consequences. In this case contamination of the water supply.
Water supply-if privately owned and especially given if used as a supply for drinking water, cleanliness standards would apply as demanded and monitored by its customers and ownership responsible for adhering to said standards or suffer the consequence.
Each responsible party would necessarily pass costs along to the end user or go out of business.
What we have here in NJ (and all govt managed resources) is the natural outcome of public/govt ownership, where in reality no one owns the resource,but temporary politicians and bureaucrats with no skin in the game are responsible for its stewardship, therefore the resource is abused, taken for granted, spoiled, ruined,etc.
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Correct. I mean, there’s a such thing about being vigilant about taxes, and then there’s just being stupid. This tax is probably half the cost of a Netflix subscription.
A tax for clean water that I surely helped pollute hardly seems irrational. The reaction to it by some of these posters is beyond irrational and has went over the line to retarded.
Hey fellas...take your cup down to the local river and have a swig.
Little known fact:
New York City has some of the best water any place in the world.
Do you know why?
Because they pipe it in from the countryside of upstate New York.
Should upstate New York tax New York City for the privilege?
Here in Florida we have a storm water tax. The summer months it rains here in the afternoon just about every day with a down pour. It is figured in our property taxes.
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