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View Poll Results: Do you think he win the Midwest and Rust Belt again?
Yes 111 57.51%
No 82 42.49%
Voters: 193. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-10-2019, 04:59 PM
 
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Obama had 8 years and he didn't do it....Trump only has 2 years and he has done more in taking on the status quo and bad trade deals than Clinton/ Bush /Obama have done in 24 years.


what is the message from the Democrats to counter Trump and bring back jobs in the rustbelt? 70% tax rates? a green deal that will kill middle-class jobs?



everything that the current democrat party is far from open borders that keep wages down and for globalism is counterproductive for the rustbelt.


Even if the Democrats nominate Biden, he has a long record of screwing with the rustbelt since the 80's.
Biggest accomplishment from the liar-in-chief was the tax cut which he basically rubber stamped from the GOP, and was highly regressive, benefiting the 1% and corps mainly. Permanent tax cut is only for corporations beyond 10 years. That should help his numbers lol.

Right now, many midwest farmers and manufacturers are getting farked by the trade war as collateral damage
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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I think Wisconsin is a lost cause. Michigan most likely as well.

I think he'll win Iowa and Ohio again, not sure on PA. I could see it going either way.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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It will all come down to "IF" the Dems can put up a candidate that is not a Loony Lefty they found in the weeds out in far Left field. If they can then they might just hit a home run but so far the clown car is getting pretty packed with the Bozos that have stepped forward.
So many people are ready to vote for anything new, from any party or wing. Anything but the same old spiel.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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I believe that enough folks around here are disappointed and outraged by the failed tax plan, no healthcare reform, manufacturer jobs lost including GM, government shutdowns, investigation, and corruption, failed border wall plan, trade wars, farmers in distress and filing BK, no climate change plan, the continuous berating of other politicians and professionals etc. in a 2 year time span.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:07 PM
 
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Given the current slate of candidates trying to outdo each other on how far left they can go, it's likely Trump will carry them again.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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Orange Man Bad!!!
Orange man savior!!!
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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It is looking less and less like Trump will even be on the ballot. If he is, Biden and Harris beat him easily in those states.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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It depends on who the opposition is. My hunch is he will probably lose those states unfortunately. He ran a populist campaign that appealed to the rust belt yet his governing has been more mainstream GOP.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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It is looking less and less like Trump will even be on the ballot. If he is, Biden and Harris beat him easily in those states.
You need to share what you're smoking. In what alternative universe does it appear as if Trump won't be on the ballot? Perhaps in your own mind?
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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He keeps Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and most of the farm belt. Iowa could go either way.

My guess is he loses Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, primarily due to a drop in support among suburban college grads/women, and a slightly smaller voter percentage from white non-college voters due to demographic change.

In 2016, he carries Michigan, Pennsylvania and Winsonsin by a total of 77,000.

The projected loss in white non-college voters due to death and fewer replacement voters in those three states is greater than his 2016 margin.
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