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Originally Posted by Vector1
Assuming the story has any validty, what is worse, trying to get people to recognize your accomplishments, or getting an undeserved Nobel handed to you for doing absolutely nothing?
You do realize that is what happened with Obama, right?
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There's a big difference.
Obama never asked for the prize. He didn't even know he was under consideration.
Fishing for the Peace Prize is worse.
You believe the prize was undeserved, but the Nobel committee didn't. They're the ones who are entitled to make that decision, not you. Because it's their prize, not yours.
Attempting to gain the prize by trickery is like wearing a medal you never earned but want it to wear.
If you have actually won a medal honestly, you can always hand it back if you think it's undeserved, or never wear it. Either is your choice, but the award's donors won't ever ask for it back if they still believe the award was deserved.
What's a medal anyway? Nothing more than a physical emblem of the recognition of intent. Many medal winners failed in their attempts, right down to dying, but the medal they won showed the intent of the actions deserved recognition.
If your accomplishments are recognized by others, isn't the recognition itself enough? It is for some. For others, a medal is a nice appreciation token.
What is stolen valor?
A guy who wears medals he never earned.
False bragging is false because there's no honest intent in the display. When Trump shows his honest intent, he too may win the Nobel Peace Prize, even if his intentions don't prove out.
He cannot ever expect to win it by trickery, bullying, or bragging. But if he tries to set the conditions that can make a peace possible, and I think there are places where he is trying to do that, he could win the prize.
It's more often awarded as an aspiration to see a plan through as it is for a plan that succeeded. Most of the awards were given for plans that ultimately failed.
The Norwegians and no better at peering into the future than anyone else when it comes to peace. That's why the Peace Prize is sometimes never awarded in a given year.
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Trump, or someone from his administration, forged Nobel nomination
