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And this is apparently the crescendo, climax moment of the entire Mueller investigation. Less than four years, and in the end he will do less than that.
Also, still no evidence to support the Democrat left conspiracy theory about Donald Trump conspiring with the Russians to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton.
Nothing.
No, no it is not why would you even think that? seriously dude you need to increase the number and variety of news sources you are using...
And this is apparently the crescendo, climax moment of the entire Mueller investigation. Less than four years, and in the end he will do less than that.
Also, still no evidence to support the Democrat left conspiracy theory about Donald Trump conspiring with the Russians to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton.
Nothing.
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A big fat zero.
Zilch.
Not even a sniff.
And all that effort and money wasted.
The Democrats will also waste the next two years trying to discredit Trump instead of being REALLY smart and coming up with a good,alternative,young,untainted,dynamic opponent.
But unbelievably they're still talking about Joe Biden
Manafort has been under investigation since 2013.
He was convicted for tax and bank fraud crimes.
The judge in this case would not allow any talk of the Mueller investigation in the courtroom
Manafort was convicted because he's guilty and he's a criminal.
Unfortunate that you think punishing criminals for fraud is a waste of time.
There used to be a time when I took at least some of the things you said seriously, but that day is long gone. You've completely jumped the shark now, and have in fact become one of worst Trump shills on the board. For you to take this quote -
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Manafort potentially faces up to 80 years in prison, according to a review of the federal charges and the relevant statutes.
to justify this statement -
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So what was this sentence supposed to be, according to the 'Fake news' Democrat left media experts on television? What was it? Eighty years? More?
and apparently do it with a straight face is just pathetic. The more water your ship takes on, the more straws you grasp at. Face it, dude - your ship is already sliding beneath the waves. Just do what the old fishermen used to do; swallow your draught of water, and let yourself slide down. It's more dignified than this pathetic flailing.
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you do know this is just one case Manafort is to be sentenced on another one next week i think.
plus of course there is a bunch of other stuff he may yet be charged with....
Someone suggested earlier that Mueller may still have the option of refiling the charges on which the Manafort jury hung last time, and if so, I'd love to see him do it. I'm not sure he can, though, because my understanding was that he had to do it within a certain window which is now closed.
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Manafort has been under investigation since 2013.
He was convicted for tax and bank fraud crimes.
The judge in this case would not allow any talk of the Mueller investigation in the courtroom
Manafort was convicted because he's guilty and he's a criminal.
Unfortunate that you think punishing criminals for fraud is a waste of time.
It's the new Republican slogan - "Breaking the law is not against the law!"
Manafort has been under investigation since 2013.
He was convicted for tax and bank fraud crimes.
The judge in this case would not allow any talk of the Mueller investigation in the courtroom
Manafort was convicted because he's guilty and he's a criminal.
Unfortunate that you think punishing criminals for fraud is a waste of time.
The idea that executives should spend a long time in jail for tax fraud while others guilty of violent crime serve considerably less is something I've always found bizarre about the US judicial system.
Punishment should never become retribution.
And as an outsider I can only laugh at the sheer stupidity of sending armed SWAT teams in to arrest white collar criminals in the dead of night.
Some Americans really are suckers for the melodramatic.
During the trial, prosecutors put forward exhaustive evidence of how Mr. Manafort had illegally concealed his work on behalf of political parties in Ukraine that were aligned with Russia and of how he hid more than $55 million in payments from that work in more than 30 overseas bank accounts.
Once his income from Ukraine dried up, the evidence showed, Mr. Manafort deceived banks to obtain loans to sustain a lavish lifestyle.
“The defendant blames everyone from the special counsel’s office to his Ukrainian clients for his own criminal choices,” prosecutors wrote in a sentencing memo.
can one fail to report $55 MILLION in income and deceive banks and receive a less than four year sentence.
Tell me why, again, Bernie Madoff is in jail for the rest of his life and not Manafort?
And the poor yokel who stole $100 from a laundromat is in jail for six years?
Manafort cheated 320 million taxpayers out of tens of millions in taxes.
May as well tell the IRS to close up shop and most certainly cease and desist its audits.
Henceforth, none of us need file accurate tax returns, either. - clearly, it isn't important if we've lived otherwise "blameless lives" because Judge Ellis has so stated.
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“He’s lived an otherwise blameless life,” Ellis said. The judged noted Manafort has no past criminal history and “earned the admiration of a number of people” who wrote letters to the court.
The idea that executives should spend a long time in jail for tax fraud while others guilty of violent crime serve considerably less is something I've always found bizarre about the US judicial system.
Punishment should never become retribution.
And as an outsider I can only laugh at the sheer stupidity of sending armed SWAT teams in to arrest white collar criminals in the dead of night.
Some Americans really are suckers for the melodramatic.
It seems you think executives should serve NO time in jail for tax fraud judging by your last post.
Do you think Manafort is innocent?
It seems you think executives should serve NO time in jail for tax fraud judging by your last post.
Do you think Manafort is innocent?
No - he just doesn't think tax and bank fraud matter - i.e., white collar crime. We can lie, cheat and steal any which way - just don't physically hurt anyone. Not paying taxes and lying to steal money from banks is OK though.
Manafort has another sentencing next week, and maybe some unpardonable state charges on the horizon. Trump is not going to pardon Manafort if it hurts him in any way. Cohen figured that out as soon as he was sentenced and decided to get religion and cooperate. There still could be other charges pending for Manafort as Mueller carefully makes his way up the food chain. Roger Stone will be on trial in October. Who's next? Don Jr.? Kushner?
How much money did Manafort have to surrender? Tens of millions? But but No Collusion......Yet.
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