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Old 03-19-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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‘Terrifying’: Illinois abortion bills said to be more extreme than New York’s

Thus, the bills would sanction post-viability abortions, remove limits on all methods of abortion committed at any stage of pregnancy, remove any requirement to provide medical care to a baby who survives an attempted abortion, and undermine if not wholly eliminate conscience protections for healthcare workers.

Additionally, the legislation states that any qualified “health care professional” may commit abortions. The bill as drafted clarifies that this is “including, but not limited to, a physician, advanced practice registered nurse, physician assistant,” which means that a wide range of people with limited medical training could legally commit abortions in Illinois.

 
Old 03-19-2019, 03:12 PM
 
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Twin infants die after hospital refuses to save them despite mother’s pleas.

In a heartbreaking video released by Created Equal, Amanda, the mother of premature twin boys Emery and Elliot, can be heard pleading for her sons’ lives. In June of 2017, Amanda was experiencing bleeding when she went to Riverside Methodist Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, at 22 weeks and two days gestation. Medical staff informed her that if her babies were born before 22 weeks and five days gestation, they would not resuscitate them. Three days later, at exactly 22 weeks and five days gestation, Amanda gave birth to Emery and Elliot, and though the boys moved, breathed, and even cried, the doctors still refused to help them.
 
Old 03-19-2019, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The difference is these children were killed by a maniac killer and those aborted are killed by their mother with the help of an abortionist who will do it for money.
The result is still the same, dead babies, dead children.

Why do you rail against one and not the other?

BTW, drive by gang related killings are all about money.
 
Old 03-19-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Twin infants die after hospital refuses to save them despite mother’s pleas.

In a heartbreaking video released by Created Equal, Amanda, the mother of premature twin boys Emery and Elliot, can be heard pleading for her sons’ lives. In June of 2017, Amanda was experiencing bleeding when she went to Riverside Methodist Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, at 22 weeks and two days gestation. Medical staff informed her that if her babies were born before 22 weeks and five days gestation, they would not resuscitate them. Three days later, at exactly 22 weeks and five days gestation, Amanda gave birth to Emery and Elliot, and though the boys moved, breathed, and even cried, the doctors still refused to help them.
How’s the lawsuit going?


As for the “R” rating, what’s “shocking” about it?
Did you think it would be appropriate viewing for children?

Granted, I’ve seen some of the most fervent anti-choicers drag their poor children to rallies and have them hold up posters showing all sorts of manufactured grotesqueries and somehow think that’s appropriate, so maybe there are some who had planned this to be family-night viewing.

Oh, well.
 
Old 03-19-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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Pssssssst. The left already does that. Haven't you seen the many threads on this forum? Heard Liberal politicians rant about so-called assault rifles? They already condemn legal gun owners who have never violated any laws and never will.
Psssssst. This is about the so called pro-life right that views children killed from gun violence as nothing more than unfortunate collateral damage. You won't catch them advocating for those children.

Why should doctors who perform legal abortions be condemned because of ONE doctor who performed illegal abortions?......ONE doctor who was convicted and sent to prison?

The OP's answer to illegal abortion is a ban on all abortion, why shouldn't the answer to the illegal use of guns be a ban on all guns?

I'll add another example: alcohol.

Should all alcohol be banned because some people drive drunk and kill people?
 
Old 03-19-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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Twin infants die after hospital refuses to save them despite mother’s pleas.

In a heartbreaking video released by Created Equal, Amanda, the mother of premature twin boys Emery and Elliot, can be heard pleading for her sons’ lives. In June of 2017, Amanda was experiencing bleeding when she went to Riverside Methodist Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, at 22 weeks and two days gestation. Medical staff informed her that if her babies were born before 22 weeks and five days gestation, they would not resuscitate them. Three days later, at exactly 22 weeks and five days gestation, Amanda gave birth to Emery and Elliot, and though the boys moved, breathed, and even cried, the doctors still refused to help them.
She is only a woman, who cares what she wants?
 
Old 03-19-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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Not in New York anymore. They passed the most lenient abortion bill. No longer can a woman say her unborn baby was killed by a drunk driver. They won't prosecute that. They can abort a baby up to birth without any blinking of an eye. They don't even need the abortionist to be a doctor. Not sure who they will use, maybe a nurse or someone who has just been trained to do abortions.

Even if the baby is born from a botched abortion they can leave the baby to die and do nothing to help it survive.
Stop pretending you care .....who do you think is going to be doing abortions if it is banned and driven underground?
 
Old 03-19-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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The result is still the same, dead babies, dead children.

Why do you rail against one and not the other?

BTW, drive by gang related killings are all about money.
Who said I care about one and not the other?
 
Old 03-19-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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She is only a woman, who cares what she wants?
I don't think you got the message of the article. Why don't you read it again. The woman wanted her babies but the doctors ignored her pleas. How is that for not caring about women?
 
Old 03-19-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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by the way


R-Rated covers a wide range of things, including nudity and adult material in general.
There are G-rated movies that should be rated PG and vice versa. There are PG-13 movies that should be R-rated and vice versa. The MPAA ratings systems is very inconsistent. Finding an R-rated movie that is devoid of adult language, nudity, and sex is not easy.
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