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Old 03-12-2019, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Some of you may have heard of the meme friendly candidate who is running on a platform for UBI, Andrew Yang.

The truth is this man is awful, he wants a public income off of corporate wealth/tech wealth to make consumers even more zombie like slaves to consumerism.

That means everyone supports a robotized workforce where tech companies make everything, and get an income from the government so they can sit around and spend money to keep these companies afloat.

Don't become slaves to corporate wealth, fight Yang.
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:58 AM
 
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Companies are going to automate whether you like or not. You can personally choose not to participate, but the shifting winds of the markets will affect us all.

Just found this company today actually.

https://www.boost.ai
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:03 AM
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Companies are going to automate whether you like or not. You can personally choose not to participate, but the shifting winds of the markets will affect us all.

Just found this company today actually.

https://www.boost.ai
Production has been automating for over a hundred years and with it there have been commensurate quality of life improvements,new job creation and increased consumer purchasing power. Any such notion that mass unemployment will occur simply ignores history.
UBI schemes are just another way to get the populace hooked on govt dope and have no basis in economic reality.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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Every candidate in every party is a threat to the country because the government they seek to control is itself the number 1 threat to the country.

If Yang cracks 3% in any primary, I'll be shocked.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Every candidate in every party is a threat to the country because the government they seek to control is itself the number 1 threat to the country.

If Yang cracks 3% in any primary, I'll be shocked.
Me too.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Production has been automating for over a hundred years and with it there have been commensurate quality of life improvements,new job creation and increased consumer purchasing power. Any such notion that mass unemployment will occur simply ignores history.
UBI schemes are just another way to get the populace hooked on govt dope and have no basis in economic reality.
This is more than production automation. This will be an AI takeover. New jobs may be created, but they will be performed by robots as well. There is no history where this level of tech is concerned, this is a new frontier.

UBI will be a necessity at some point.

Yang is a utopian left wing gun grabber but he is not wrong about AI.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:39 AM
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This is more than production automation. This will be an AI takeover. New jobs may be created, but they will be performed by robots as well. There is no history where this level of tech is concerned, this is a new frontier.

UBI will be a necessity at some point.

Yang is a utopian left wing gun grabber but he is not wrong about AI.
You're both wrong, its a crackpot idea, ignoring for a moment that UBI is another immoral rob peter to pay paul scheme, jobs, like human wants and needs are not finite. Who would have ever imagined such careers as coder, nuclear engineer, IT person, dog walker, graphic artist etc., a hundred years ago or even fifty?
If anything you should ask yourself; why would AI take over, what would make people so unattractive to employ, why would people stop wanting to work, create, discover? Could it be all the govt mandated strings that are attached to hiring a human or starting a business?
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You're both wrong, its a crackpot idea, ignoring for a moment that UBI is another immoral rob peter to pay paul scheme, jobs, like human wants and needs are not finite. Who would have ever imagined such careers as coder, nuclear engineer, IT person, dog walker, graphic artist etc., a hundred years ago or even fifty?
If anything you should ask yourself; why would AI take over, what would make people so unattractive to employ, why would people stop wanting to work, create, discover? Could it be all the govt mandated strings that are attached to hiring a human or starting a business?
How is taxing production made by robots theft?
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Don't become slaves to corporate wealth, fight Yang.
ive got just the guy to run against him:
* joined the University of Virginia law faculty in 1994
* served as chief of staff of the U.S. Congress' Joint Committee on Taxation
* worked as a computer programmer prior to attending law school
* clerked for a federal court
* practiced law in Washington, D.C.
* served as tax counsel to the U.S. Senate Finance Committee
* assisted Congress on a number of tax bills, including
- the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA)
- the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004
- the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004.

https://www.law.virginia.edu/faculty...e/gy8a/1223683
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:49 AM
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How is taxing production made by robots theft?
The robot and its production is owned by a human or humans. You would be taxing them, the robots are just capital.
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