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Old 03-25-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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Lindsay Graham will open an investigation now on FISA.

Time to get to the REAL bottom of the issue on who started this mess in the first place.

 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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You guys will have to blame Mueller too....Mueller could have charged Trump and didn't

You'll never see the whole report..and you shouldn't...there will be things in there that have nothing to do with this or anything else that might be a crime...that are personal/private and no one's business

Release all that...and Mueller/Barr etc can get their pants sued off
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Exactly. We've seen the Barr Report, now let us see the Mueller Report.



Partisan AG with a published bias against obstruction cases declines to pursue obstruction. Surprise, surprise.

Why? You are never going to admit that Trump was innocent of those made up collusion allegations. This is simply moving the goalpost again and obviously, absolutely no interest in the very people, many of them working in high levels of the government, who participated in this Democrat tragedy brought down on America.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Barr says there's no evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government. Okay, I can accept that. But what about colluding with WikiLeaks or Guccifer? Interesting that Barr left any mention of that out, especially since we know Roger Stone was in contact with them.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Why do you need to see the Mueller report? We all know you don't care what it says. Neither do Democrats in general. The witch hunt will go on no matter what anyone with a brain says. Any objective observer knew this "collusion" business was nonsense from day one.
Exactly!!!!

And what a huge waste of taxpayers' money!!!

And all because the Deep State is angry that a non-politician won the election! President Trump is not of the Wash DC good old boys; didn't pay his dues and other such nonsense in their mindset. These are the people voters voted into office to work for our country, not waste millions of dollars to try and salve their wounded egos. They are all immature, irresponsible crybabies!
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Baloney.

The Russians interfered in our elections to help elect Trump. There is considerable evidence of this.

How much Trump and his campaign folks were involved with this is the question.

We still don't have a straight answer to that.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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This is one of the best analyses of the Barr release I've seen yet:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...l-exoneration/

It is not clear from Barr’s letter what level of evidence Mueller’s office considered. Was it a beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard that’s applied to criminal prosecutions, or some lower bar?

This is why we need to see the report in it's entirety. What is the context?
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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tRump is right to take a victory lap after escaping indictment.

But the report certainly doesn't exonerate him, like he claims.

And he's not out of legal jeopardy on a bunch of other issues.

It didn't exonerate Hillary Clinton or anyone else, either. The mission was not to exonerate anyone from everything. That's pretty much an impossible task. When an investigation is conducted on this scale with this intensity and fails to find sufficient evidence to indict, that is a de facto exoneration.



Liberals can try to spin it but this is not the report they had wanted or expected. I haven't seen liberals this subdued since election night 2016.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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But what about colluding with WikiLeaks or Guccifer? Interesting that Barr left any mention of that out, especially since we know Roger Stone was in contact with them.
Elliot..as long as you continue to not read the report....


"The second element involved the Russian government?s efforts to conduct computer
hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to in?uence the election. The
Special Counsel found that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and
obtained emails from persons af?liated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party
organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including
WikiLeaks. Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a .
number of Russian military of?cers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for
purposes of in?uencing the election. But as noted above, the Special Counsel did not ?nd that the
Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian
government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-af?liated individuals to assist
the Trump campaign
."
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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Also, it did not waste taxpayers' money.

As has been pointed out countless times, the money obtained through forfeiture covers the cost of the investigation.
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