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Old 03-28-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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Retract WHAT?
Trump colluded and got away with because it couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
He asked Russia for help on LIVE TV - and within MINUTES Russia responded with attacks on Hillary's server - and NOTHING you posted above refutes that.
THAT'S collusion - and the American People KNOW that - and they'll be reminded of that when ads showing Trump ASKING FOR HELP FROM RUSSIA ON LIVE TV are replayed over and over and over again.

Ken
more lies....damn dude do you get tired of writing B.S.? Hillary's server didn't get attack on July/27/2016.......her server and the nation's secrets were compromised from 2009 to 2013 when she was secretary of state and whatever emails she kept on her server beyond 2013 that she didn't turn over to the State Department. She compromised the country by having a personal server in her house and doing official business as Secretary of State.......and then she deleted 33,000 emails when she got a subpoena.....that is the outrage not Trump.


Mueller didn't have probable cause to file charges, forget beyond a reasonable doubt. This is how clueless you are, You don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to file charges. You need probable cause that a crime was done and Mueller didn't have that.....nobody was charged with collusion with Russia unless you want to argue that Trump did it by himself with no help.

 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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more lies....damn dude do you get tired of writing B.S.? Hillary's server didn't get attack on July/27/2016.......her server and the nation's secret were compromised from 2009 to 2013 when she was secretary of state and whatever emails she kept on her server beyond 2013. She compromised the country by having a personal server in her house and doing official business as Secretary of State.......and then she deleted 33,000 emails when she got a subpoena.....that is the outraged not Trump.


Mueller didn't have probable cause to file charges, forget beyond a reasonable doubt. This is how clueless you are, You don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to file charges. You need probable cause that a crime was done and Mueller didn't have that.....nobody was charged with collusion with Russia.
That's funny because...

"Russian spies began trying to hack Hillary Clinton’s personal email server on the very day Donald Trump urged the Russian government to find emails Clinton had erased, prosecutors said on Friday.

An indictment filed by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, said Russian hackers attempted “for the first time” to break into email accounts used by Clinton’s personal office “after hours” on 27 July 2016.

That day, at an event in Florida, Trump invited the Russian state to search for the approximately 30,000 emails that Clinton was found to have deleted from her private server on the grounds that they were not related to government work..."


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ump-indictment

And yet you claim her server was NOT attacked on that date. It seems a filing by Mueller says OTHERWISE. WHO should I believe - MUELLER? or some "nobody" on the internet?

Hmmmmm.....
Tough choice - NOT!

Ken
 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
Retract WHAT?
Trump colluded and got away with because it couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
He asked Russia for help on LIVE TV - and within MINUTES Russia responded with attacks on Hillary's server - and NOTHING you posted above refutes that.
THAT'S collusion - and the American People KNOW that - and they'll be reminded of that when ads showing Trump ASKING FOR HELP FROM RUSSIA ON LIVE TV are replayed over and over and over again.

Ken
God Bless Your Heart, you can keep on repeating this nonsense til the cows come home, but it doesn't make it true. There was no collusion, and the Russians did not hack Hillary's server because of Trump's offhand joke. And I doubt that you can speak for "the American People" on anything.

(p.s. - SHOUTING doesn't make things any more factual, it just makes your ignorance more apparent...)
 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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That's funny because...

"Russian spies began trying to hack Hillary Clinton’s personal email server on the very day Donald Trump urged the Russian government to find emails Clinton had erased, prosecutors said on Friday.

An indictment filed by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, said Russian hackers attempted “for the first time” to break into email accounts used by Clinton’s personal office “after hours” on 27 July 2016.

That day, at an event in Florida, Trump invited the Russian state to search for the approximately 30,000 emails that Clinton was found to have deleted from her private server on the grounds that they were not related to government work..."


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ump-indictment

And yet you claim her server was NOT attacked on that date. It seems a filing by Mueller says OTHERWISE. WHO should I believe - MUELLER? or some "nobody" on the internet?

Hmmmmm.....
Tough choice - NOT!

Ken

damn dude, do you even read your own links?


"Prosecutors say spies began hacking on 27 July 2016 – but indictment does not suggest direct link with Trump’s request" No direct link with Trump’s remark was alleged in Mueller’s indictment.

hackers always try to hack. To say they began in July/27/2016 because of Trump's press conference is retarded and a lie.


so If Mueller, your GOD, didn't find any evidence or connection, why do you make cr@p up?
 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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God Bless Your Heart, you can keep on repeating this nonsense til the cows come home, but it doesn't make it true. There was no collusion, and the Russians did not hack Hillary's server because of Trump's offhand joke. And I doubt that you can speak for "the American People" on anything.

(p.s. - SHOUTING doesn't make things any more factual, it just makes your ignorance more apparent...)
It right there in the Mueller indictment of the Russian hackers. Bottom of page 7 and top of page 8. You can LOOK at the document ITSELFf:

"...For example, on or about July 27, 2016 the Conspirators attempted after hours to speaphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office..."

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.ne...indictment.pdf

So don't give some ignorant Trumpian BS about the hacking attempt of Hillary's email server not happening.
It's RIGHT there in BLACK AND WHITE - Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS ON LIVE TV to find Hillary's missing emails, and WITHIN MINUTES the Russians ATTEMPTED TO DO SO.

Ken
 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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by the way, if you read the indictments on the Russian by Mueller it says:


Starting in at least March 2016, the Conspirators used a variety of means to hack the emaila ccounts of volunteers and employees of the U.S. presidential c ampaign of Hillary Clinton (the“Clinton Campaign”), including the email account of the Clinton Campaign’s chairman. 4.By in or around April 2016, the Conspirators also hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (“DCCC”) and the Democratic NationalCommittee (“DNC”).

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download





the hacking on the DNC per Mueller didn't start on July/26/2016.....the hacking on the DNC started at least March/2016, 5 months BEFORE Trump's press conference.


Why do you lie so much here?


 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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Reminds me of this

 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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damn dude, do you even read your own links?


"Prosecutors say spies began hacking on 27 July 2016 – but indictment does not suggest direct link with Trump’s request" No direct link with Trump’s remark was alleged in Mueller’s indictment.

hackers always try to hack. To say they began in July/27/2016 because of Trump's press conference is retarded and a lie.


so If Mueller, your GOD, didn't find any evidence or connection, why do you make cr@p up?
The INDICTMENT doesn't make the connection because Mueller COULDN'T PROVE a direct link - but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to make the connection: Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS ON LIVE TV to find Hillary's missing emails - and WITHIN MINUTES Russian hackers attack her server.
And you think that's a COINCIDENCE?
Good luck selling that stupid theory to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Trump colluded with the Russians, it's as simple as that.
Provable in a court of law - maybe not.
Provable in the court of public opinion?
Yeah, I think so.

Ken
 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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The INDICTMENT doesn't make the connection because Mueller COULDN'T PROVE a direct link - but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to make the connection: Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS ON LIVE TV to find Hillary's missing emails - and WITHIN MINUTES Russian hackers attack her server.
And you think that's a COINCIDENCE?
Good luck selling that stupid theory to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Trump colluded with the Russians, it's as simple as that.
Provable in a court of law - maybe not.
Provable in the court of public opinion?
Yeah, I think so.

Ken
if Mueller couldn't make a connection after 2 years and unlimited resources and millions of dollars then there is NO connection and no evidence.....unless you are the smartest in the country.

If Hillary deleted all her emails as Secretary of State then there is nothing for Russia to hack for the missing 33,000 emails.....make up your mind, did Hillary deleted the 33,000 emails under subpoena before July/27/2016 or she still had them? if she did she violated the law and lied to investigators and Congress.....which is it?



Foreign hackers are constantly trying to hack into the U.S. political system everyday.....to suggest they only started to hack on July/27/2016 because of the Trump press conference is retarded.


you are looking like a bigger fool by doubling down on collusion......just take the loss and walk away.
 
Old 03-28-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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if Mueller couldn't make a connection after 2 years and unlimited resources and millions of dollars then there is NO connection and no evidence.....unless you are the smartest in the country.

If Hillary deleted all her emails as Secretary of State then there is nothing for Russia to hack for the missing 33,000 emails.....make up your mind, did Hillary deleted the 33,000 emails under subpoena before July/27/2016 or she still had them? if she did she violated the law and lied to investigators and Congress.....which is it?



Foreign hackers are constantly trying to hack into the U.S. political system everyday.....to suggest they only started to hack on July/27/2016 because of the Trump press conference is retarded.


you are looking like a bigger fool by doubling down on collusion......just take the loss and walk away.
Mueller couldn't make a CONNECTION because he CAN'T QUESTION the RUSSIANS to determine their MOTIVATIONS.


Whether or not Hillary's missing were there or not doesn't make a bit of difference if the Russian thought they MIGHT be there.

Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS ON LIVE TV to help him find Hillary's missing emails, and the RUSSIANS RESPONDED WITHIN MINUTES.
Trump COLLUDED with the RUSSIANS.
Its as simple as that. He just got away with it because his partners in the process are HIDING IN RUSSIA.

Ken
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