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Old 04-07-2019, 07:20 PM
 
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He went from saying that he had absolute proof of collusion to, "It can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt." Yes that sure as hell is backpedaling.

Welcome to the Democrats' very own WMD scandal. Like George W and the Republicans, the Dems bet the farm on a conspiracy theory. They didn't have proof but they were so sure it was true, they went after it all guns blazing. Not too far removed from Bush invading Iraq really, but the damage done wasn't to a foreign state. It was an attack on our governmental institutions and the damage is significant.

I'm a non-partisan. If Trump had been found guilty, been impeached and spent what few years of life he has remaining in prison, I wouldn't have been terribly upset by it. But the whole idea that Russia even could buy a man who is worth billions always struck me as incredibly far fetched. It's always struck me that the Dems were going to see this thing blow up in their faces. Now it has and like we saw with Bush and the WMD's, they're in massive denial about it. I fully expect the tinfoil hat wearing believers to go to their graves convinced that Trump is a Russian agent and that Russia has usurped control of our government. But the Right and Center together -- we think you're a bunch of idiots. Every news agency that wasted our time on this is going to get less and less viewership. Fox News comes out of this as the most honest news source. CNN and MSNBC have almost no credibility now. The whole world changed because the Left was so hell-bent on chasing this conspiracy theory.

For those of you that are still believers, if the largest most expensive investigation in human history wasn't good enough for you, what would be? Is there anything that would change your mind? Seriously, do some introspection. Be honest with yourself. You need to admit to yourself that you so desperately want to believe that you will continue believing no matter what. This is your new religion. If you can realize that much, maybe you can break free some day.
Criminal conduct worthy of indictment....has yet to be revealed as the full report has yet to be revealed.

And. Collusion was in plain sight and revealed in real time as reports of lies from Don Jr. And Hope Hicks let alone Manafort and Kushner lieing coverup .

 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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We are headed towards a constitutional crisis at this very moment over those tax returns and the Mueller report.
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LMAO!!! Is that what they are saying at Msnbc?
You were told what you believe!! Do not makes us come find you!! Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated!!

This is going to be fun. I was still on the Right when the whole WMD thing went down, so I got to experience the general butt-hurt feeling about my former side being completely wrong. In retrospect, I can really appreciate how stupid the Right looked over all of that. It's hilarious how stupid they looked back then!!

And now I can fully enjoy the Democrats stepping in it!!

Biggest loser: The Mainstream News Media. They bought in both of those tinfoil hat conspiracies and they were wrong both time.s
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:28 PM
 
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This man went on national tv many times and said he flat out saw proof Trump collided with Russia


Where is the proof?
Where are these many appearances on national TV?
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:34 PM
 
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Criminal conduct worthy of indictment....has yet to be revealed as the full report has yet to be revealed.

And. Collusion was in plain sight and revealed in real time as reports of lies from Don Jr. And Hope Hicks let alone Manafort and Kushner lieing coverup .
The summary by Mr. Mueller says that there will be no further indictments. All indictments to date have had absolutely nothing to do with Russian collusion and absolutely nothing to do with Trump actually committing a crime. The best thing we know so far is that Mueller isn't offering up any conclusions on obstruction of justice and that will be left to Barr. Barr has stated that you can't obstruct justice if there is no crime, which is true. So that kinda seals it.

Now do you believe that Barr will destroy his life, career and reputation by so blatantly misrepresenting what was found by the Mueller probe? His opinion might be partisan. This would come as no surprise. But won't dare to be so blatantly wrong as to say, "no collusion" when there is overwhelming evidence of collusion. And Mueller already said no collusion.

This hearkens back to the Dems obsessing over Mitt Romney's and Donald Trump's tax returns. The sheeple in the Democratic Party are completely failing to realize the obvious: The IRS has their tax returns. If there were evidence of a crime, the IRS would have audited or prosecuted, etc. Apparently that never happened, so even though you don't have the tax returns, you already know plenty. Likewise, the chief investigator and the Attorney General have both state that Trump committed no crime. You don't need to see the full report. The legal authorities that would proceed if there were criminal charges to pursue already have all the information. They're not doing anything. There may or may not be hints, allegations and things left unsaid. Any good conspiracy theory absolutely lives and breathes off of those sorts of things. But Mueller didn't even offer the qualifier of "not enough evidence." He said, "no evidence."
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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Seems the right have launch to smear campaign against Schiff.

Every time I've heard him speak he has carefully worded everything.

But so what if he didn't? We're fine with Trump falsely accusing others of all sorts of nefarious deeds from illegal wire taps, and "deep state" conspiracies to who knows what all.

Let the good times roll.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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The summary by Mr. Mueller says that there will be no further indictments. All indictments to date have had absolutely nothing to do with Russian collusion and absolutely nothing to do with Trump actually committing a crime. The best thing we know so far is that Mueller isn't offering up any conclusions on obstruction of justice and that will be left to Barr. Barr has stated that you can't obstruct justice if there is no crime, which is true. So that kinda seals it.

Now do you believe that Barr will destroy his life, career and reputation by so blatantly misrepresenting what was found by the Mueller probe? His opinion might be partisan. This would come as no surprise. But won't dare to be so blatantly wrong as to say, "no collusion" when there is overwhelming evidence of collusion. And Mueller already said no collusion.

This hearkens back to the Dems obsessing over Mitt Romney's and Donald Trump's tax returns. The sheeple in the Democratic Party are completely failing to realize the obvious: The IRS has their tax returns. If there were evidence of a crime, the IRS would have audited or prosecuted, etc. Apparently that never happened, so even though you don't have the tax returns, you already know plenty. Likewise, the chief investigator and the Attorney General have both state that Trump committed no crime. You don't need to see the full report. The legal authorities that would proceed if there were criminal charges to pursue already have all the information. They're not doing anything. There may or may not be hints, allegations and things left unsaid. Any good conspiracy theory absolutely lives and breathes off of those sorts of things. But Mueller didn't even offer the qualifier of "not enough evidence." He said, "no evidence."
So you've seen Mueller's report?

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Old 04-07-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
The summary by Mr. Mueller says that there will be no further indictments. All indictments to date have had absolutely nothing to do with Russian collusion and absolutely nothing to do with Trump actually committing a crime. The best thing we know so far is that Mueller isn't offering up any conclusions on obstruction of justice and that will be left to Barr. Barr has stated that you can't obstruct justice if there is no crime, which is true. So that kinda seals it.

Now do you believe that Barr will destroy his life, career and reputation by so blatantly misrepresenting what was found by the Mueller probe? His opinion might be partisan. This would come as no surprise. But won't dare to be so blatantly wrong as to say, "no collusion" when there is overwhelming evidence of collusion. And Mueller already said no collusion.

This hearkens back to the Dems obsessing over Mitt Romney's and Donald Trump's tax returns. The sheeple in the Democratic Party are completely failing to realize the obvious: The IRS has their tax returns. If there were evidence of a crime, the IRS would have audited or prosecuted, etc. Apparently that never happened, so even though you don't have the tax returns, you already know plenty. Likewise, the chief investigator and the Attorney General have both state that Trump committed no crime. You don't need to see the full report. The legal authorities that would proceed if there were criminal charges to pursue already have all the information. They're not doing anything. There may or may not be hints, allegations and things left unsaid. Any good conspiracy theory absolutely lives and breathes off of those sorts of things. But Mueller didn't even offer the qualifier of "not enough evidence." He said, "no evidence."

That was Barr s Summary.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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If Mueller's report exonerated him, Trump would have tweeted it out by now ...
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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§ 600.8 Notification and reports by the Special Counsel.
(a)Budget.

(1) A Special Counsel shall be provided all appropriate resources by the Department of Justice. Within the first 60 days of his or her appointment, the Special Counsel shall develop a proposed budget for the current fiscal year with the assistance of the Justice Management Division for the Attorney General's review and approval. Based on the proposal, the Attorney General shall establish a budget for the operations of the Special Counsel. The budget shall include a request for assignment of personnel, with a description of the qualifications needed.

(2) Thereafter, 90 days before the beginning of each fiscal year, the Special Counsel shall report to the Attorney General the status of the investigation, and provide a budget request for the following year. The Attorney General shall determine whether the investigation should continue and, if so, establish the budget for the next year.

(b)Notification of significant events. The Special Counsel shall notify the Attorney General of events in the course of his or her investigation in conformity with the Departmental guidelines with respect to Urgent Reports.

(c)Closing documentation. At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.8

Mr. Mueller provided AG Barr with his report. Mr. Mueller was required to explain the prosecution or declination decisions reached.

Why hasn't AG Barr revealed the declination explanations?

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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So you've seen the Mueller's report?
I call bs.
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