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Old 03-19-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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It's never been like this before, we have our very own petty tyrant wannabe in the White House, first time in all our lifetimes.
Sorry, but Obama left the White House in January 2017. You need to get out more.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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And there you hit the nail on the head. You are still under the naive assumption that "the law" is something that Trump actually cares about or respects - or even understands. You believe that "the law" is going to stop Trump from expanding his power as President - you believe this because up until Trump, we never had a President who was willing to see exactly how far he could go in abusing his power. You believe that "the law" is going to keep the structure of our democracy intact under the continuous and unrelenting attack of a President who is totally unconstrained by morals or principles.

Here's the thing - you might very well be wrong in that assumption. Imagine a scenario where in our next election, after a defeat, Trump makes the claim of widespread election fraud. And refuses to step down until it is "resolved". When the people protest, Trump decides that we have a "national emergency" and that we need to call for martial law in order to "control the agitators".

Do you actually think that Trump would hesitate for one second to do any of that? If you think so - you really do not understand the man you elected.
As long as he brings jobs back and keeps illegals out I will vote for him.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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As long as he brings jobs back.
When’s that going to happen? Oh yeah it’s not. So your okay with Trump becoming a dictator as long as he he beings jobs back and keeps illegals out?
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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When’s that going to happen? Oh yeah it’s not. So your okay with Trump becoming a dictator as long as he he beings jobs back and keeps illegals out?
Exactly what jobs has Trump “brought back?”
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:02 PM
 
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When’s that going to happen? Oh yeah it’s not. So your okay with Trump becoming a dictator as long as he he beings jobs back and keeps illegals out?
We dont need a president to be a 'dictator'...the govt in general, already is ONE!


Presidents and administrations come and go frequently, its 'Govt' in general that is the real problem, thats why voting people in or out, hasnt changed much (with regards to some specific laws), Govt still has its hands in just about every aspect of our daily lives, and they ever trying to gain more control as time goes on too...again, presidents change every 4 or 8 years, but this trend just keeps on full steam ahead, despite who is in office at any given time.


A great example is 2012, when Govt enacted some of the toughest drug laws ever created (laws on prescription opioid drugs), and this happened under Obama??? Dems are usually against drug laws, and especially very aggressive ones like this was...so how did this happen under a democratic president?!!! LOL
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Oh I would be definitely be willing to march on Washington to see him removed.

I attended the Stewart/Colbert march in 2010 and it was a great time.
People willl not rise up for a cause unless it promises that they will 'have a great time". And therein lies the problem. Nobody takes the issues seriously enough to make a sacrifice for them..
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:56 AM
 
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People willl not rise up for a cause unless it promises that they will 'have a great time". And therein lies the problem. Nobody takes the issues seriously enough to make a sacrifice for them..
Why don't they take them seriously enough? We've had a long period of peace and prosperity, people don't understand history - and they continue to live in this fantasy world of "it can't happen here". In other words, apathy has real and lasting consequences.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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People willl not rise up for a cause unless it promises that they will 'have a great time". And therein lies the problem. Nobody takes the issues seriously enough to make a sacrifice for them..
Wrong conclusion.

I would march on Washington to see the maniac removed if he refused to leave regardless of whether it was a “great time” but I have no doubt it would be.
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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A great example is 2012, when Govt enacted some of the toughest drug laws ever created (laws on prescription opioid drugs), and this happened under Obama??? Dems are usually against drug laws, and especially very aggressive ones like this was...so how did this happen under a democratic president?!!! LOL
Correction: Dems are able to distinguish marijuana from addictive, dangerous drugs like opiods. Republicans cannot make this distinction. To them, drugs are drugs whether its weed, heroin, or meth.
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Correction: Dems are able to distinguish marijuana from addictive, dangerous drugs like opiods. Republicans cannot make this distinction. To them, drugs are drugs whether its weed, heroin, or meth.
The fact that opiods were given out legally in droves while a harmless way less addictive plant like cannabis remains illegal is one of the most absurd policies in the history of the world.
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