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It would seem that any one individual has the power to strip away everyone else's rights. This is why we place so much value on the bill of rights that leftists keep trying to erode away year after year.
These countries are informed by what they see in the USA--your country is the benchmark for gun violence--so when this happens the motivation comes from avoiding degradation into a violent gun culture. Australia is a perfect example of this, and now NZ may be following their example.
You can be pro gun or totally anti.
You can be from the country with strict gun laws or from NRA paradise.
After all, countries are different - geographically, historically, demographically, so whatever works in one might not work in other.
All that aside,
there is something repulsive in the government which uses emotionally charged situation to impose their solutions to the problem, especially when the problem is complex and as such requires cool hand, cold reasoning and impartial deliberation.
Guess they've become Sheep, by herding, ahhh, so many Sheep. The self guilt and self loathing always confuses me. If you can't trust yourself with a firearm, you can't trust yourself with any other tool. Maybe, they should just all turn themselves into the police for incarceration just in case that they may commit a crime.
What I'm saying is that they don't have restrictive gun laws now. It didn't do anything to prevent the shooting. It's a fallacy that loose gun laws prevent gun violence.
Desperately trying to avoid the facts I keep pointing out to you, aren't you? Here, I'll help you, again.
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Originally Posted by Roboteer
The madman kept coming back, firing again and again without letup, at his leisure. No police were there yet. And the people who WERE there, were incapable of firing back, stopping the madman, or otherwise defending themselves, being completely unarmed. Due mostly to the mistaken belief that "having a gun was bad, we shouldn't do it".
It wasn't necessarily the laws that disarmed the people who were vulnerable to being massacred. It was the idea (pushed relentlessly by big-gov liberals) that normal, law-abiding people carrying their own gun was somehow a "bad" thing.
I do need to thank you for providing so many opportunities to post these facts again and again, so people less thick (or duplicitous) than you can see them. Kudoes!
The same people that carry a gun when shopping, going to a restaurant or to work every day. Guess what? You are most likely around a civilian with a gun every single day.
I suppose if NZ'ers think the best response to an armed assailant bent on killing them is to voluntarily disarm themselves, who are we to say otherwise? Didn't work out too well for the mosque go'ers though.
New Zealand has more than 1.2 million civilian-owned firearms — about one gun for every four people, according to Small Arms Survey, which provides estimates for gun ownership around the world. That puts the country in the top 20 nations in the world for civilian gun ownership
Yes, clearly it was a lack of a "good guy with a gun" that caused this. That's why here at home in the US we've virtually eliminated mass shootings, because guns are so readily available.
The US should be the safest developed country in the world b/c we have so many firearms but, "Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.
Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.
More guns equals more gun deaths. The states with the highest rate of ownership have the highest rates of gun deaths. In this case an Australian terrorist had to go to New Zealand to kill b/c it was harder to get a gun in Australia.
You can be pro gun or totally anti.
You can be from the country with strict gun laws or from NRA paradise.
After all, countries are different - geographically, historically, demographically, so whatever works in one might not work in other.
All that aside,
there is something repulsive in the government which uses emotionally charged situation to impose their solutions to the problem, especially when the problem is complex and as such requires cool hand, cold reasoning and impartial deliberation.
The Fear today is that if Trump declares a national emergency to confront the border problem then when the Dems are in full power and we have a mass shooting that they will declare a national emergency and outlaw all semi automatic sporting rifles that resemble the AR15.
At the border we have thousands with more coming, that are skirting our immigration laws while millions of citizens encourage them. When one maniac murders people in a shooting we have millions of citizens that are blamed as part of the problem? Talk about misguided reasoning to a complex situation.
When it comes to the Left and their Anti Gun stance all they have is emotion.
When it comes to the Left and their Anti Gun stance all they have is emotion.
Yes, emotion is part of it. We also have statistics. See the article I posted above and you can look them up yourself. More guns = more gun deaths. It is really that simple. Or, this might be a shock, less guns = less gun deaths. Mind blowing, huh.
I wonder how many people in that church were glad that contributed to public safety by going disarmed that day. How many were glad that they relied on the government to be their last line of defense?
And the police were only a cell phone call away.
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