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Old 03-22-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Then maybe they are not practicing liberalism. Maybe the Right, instead of calling them out on it, would rather use BS rhetoric to marginalize a political group because it is easier to do so with minds that are not so bright.

Of course they are but Liberalism is a political philosophy founded on ideas of liberty and equality. Why the right tries to constantly attack it is quite funny.
there is a major difference between classic liberalism and modern liberalism (which is remarkably similar to fascism)


classic liberalism believed in equality and freedom...today they are more likely to be called libertarians
modern liberalism is about control, and anti-freedom
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I guess if you go read that book to the Northwest Passage, it will obligingly freeze over again.

It took no less of an arctic expert and all-around badass than Roald Amundsen three years to navigate the Northwest Passage - 1903-1906. Today, people navigate it in 40-foot sailboats.
Never mind 40 ft. sailboats...How about kayaks?

Kayaking the Northwest passage: a world Arctic première… | Arctic05
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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A more recent assessment:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...climate-change

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...on_report.html
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:34 AM
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science and history prove that there have been 2 dozen "changes" in the climate (glacial ages and interglacial ages).... the last glacial age ended about 18,000 years ago, and we have been warming since

every one of the last 7 interglacial ages the global average temp has reached about 72'f-75'f

every scientist says that mans contribution is 4-5%... 4-5% does NOT make it man made or man caused

climate change is natural.... will man's 4-5% make it slightly longer or slightly warmer..sure... but man is NOT THE CAUSE

this interglacial period is going on thousands of years... the last major ice age peaked about 18000 years ago, and we have been warming since

every interglacial period has lasted 20,000 - 35,000 years....and they all peaked with a global average of about 74'f.... we are currently at about 59'f global average

this current warming is well within the normal cycle

and MAN has no power to change it..we cant prevent this natural warming, and we certainly cant prevent the inevitable cooling that will happen in the next 5000-15000 years as we flip into a glacial period (which humans will have difficulty surviving)

yet the liberfools, whose master party arrogance think that a new tax will fix it with the snap of a finger, pickpocketing your wallet, just so the elite liberal masters can get richer
You need to separate the political junk from the science.

It is not within the 'normal' non human cycle. Man is accelerating this warming by putting tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgNxF2HlN3w
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You need to separate the political junk from the science.

It is not within the 'normal' non human cycle. Man is accelerating this warming by putting tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgNxF2HlN3w
less than 4% does not make it "man-made" or "man-caused"
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:38 AM
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less than 4% does not make it "man-made" or "man-caused"

I think I have an idea of what you are referring to - since you are not too clear. Please educate yourself on this misunderstanding.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmC...fHsWPfAIyI7VAP
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I think I have an idea of what you are referring to - since you are not too clear. Please educate yourself on this misunderstanding.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmC...fHsWPfAIyI7VAP
it seems you don't understand, or misunderstand


CO2 make up 400 ppm (that is parts per MILLION) or .0004%


of ALL the CO2 being put into the atmosphere (from all sources(natural and humans), humans have increased the CO2 output by less than 4%




if I make a vanity (dressing room style) for your daughter, and it is completely hand made and designed by WCH..then it is hand made by WHC...... if I take a 3d printer and have it made for you, using only 4% of a design...then it is NOT hand made by WCH


4% contribution does not = man-made or man-caused




do we as humans abuse our planet...yes we do
do we as humans litter and spoil our beautiful planet...yes we do


but its awfully egotistical to think that we are the CAUSE of the natural global climate change
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:59 AM
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it seems you don't understand, or misunderstand

CO2 make up 400 ppm (that is parts per MILLION) or .0004%

of ALL the CO2 being put into the atmosphere (from all sources(natural and humans), humans have increased the CO2 output by less than 4%

if I make a vanity (dressing room style) for your daughter, and it is completely hand made and designed by WCH..then it is hand made by WHC...... if I take a 3d printer and have it made for you, using only 4% of a design...then it is NOT hand made by WCH

4% contribution does not = man-made or man-caused

do we as humans abuse our planet...yes we do
do we as humans litter and spoil our beautiful planet...yes we do

but its awfully egotistical to think that we are the CAUSE of the natural global climate change
Just like the video, that you did not watch, says you don't grasp anything about the carbon cycle or carbon flux. Watch and learn something for once instead of passing around misinformation by uneducated bloggers.
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Old 03-22-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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You are parroting Limbaugh as he did a whole show on polar bears on Wednesday, evidently limbaugh says polar bears can swim for 9 days straight without stopping.https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...a-environment/
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Old 03-22-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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10 days

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