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Old 03-22-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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I thought Congress was in charge of the Budget?
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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Nah they don’t care. The Debt has exploded since Trump took office and ramped up after his tax cuts, yet the Trumpeteers want to still blame the Democrats. LOL Trump is the best snake oil salesman ever on that I will give him credit
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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So vote for the democrats who will give everyone, even illegal immigrants a monthly income, free health insurance as opposed to free healthcare, forgive student loans, build light rail to nowhere and tax away taxbreaks and punish people with IRAs and stock, like teachers and police union investment and of course free higher edu for all.

Try to address the deficit with that economic agenda.

Tally up the cash Trump has already saved in trade and efficiency of government and consider he has set the economy on fire. higher wages, historic employment FOR ALL! Cash is now coming in so we can address issues left languishing.

Dems claim 'you didn;t build that', how does that make small business feel? Small business is booming, hope is in the air and people are cashing in on it.

the stock market was below 2,ooo a magic number no one thought possible, especially all those Harvard trained economists who now look like fools.

We are no longer wasting taxpayer money on poor investments like solyndra, to the tune of 500 million dollars, just on that one incident of money laundering by obama. Smart investments sure! not the ones where the Obama admin was warned were about to fail.

Theoretical shovel ready jobs. unaffordable, affordable heath insurance. and of course cash for clunkers!

We are energy independent for the 1st time. Green energy research is ongoing. Stumbling blocks placed in the way of economic growth, have been removed. Many of those regs were put in place by bypassing people's representatives. Some strangling regs demand the use of technology that does not yet exist!!!!

Cash is in our pockets and the time to spend if ever is now.
Obama walked into a recession. Trump walked into 4% unemployment. That is a FACT.

I won't complain about Trump's tariffs because the people that are being hurt are the people that should be hurt - his voters. I do have an issue with giving famers billions in "tariff relief". We are borrowing money from China to pay farmers not to sell to China.

We are wasting taxpayer money on all the Republican boondoggles. They are even trying to force utilities to buy coal power which is more expensive. That said, there are still only 50,000 coal miners and that number shrinks every year.

Trump and his kids will certainly walk away richer, he's making sure of it, but the economy is already on track to shrink, the deficit is exploding (his tax cuts did not pay for themselves just like Mexico didn't pay for the wall) and Trump will furiously blame everyone else.
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Wow, almost 1/4 of a Trillion dollars just in ONE MONTH.

"The U.S. government posted the largest monthly budget deficit in American history in February, hitting a dramatic milestone as tax revenue lag and spending levels continue to skyrocket.

The government spent $234 billion more than it brought in through tax receipts last month, much more than the deficit levels hit even during the global financial crisis."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.7b8391fbc255

Another new Trump record.

I just don't understand how his fans can approve of all this - even with Trump breaking the bank we will likely see slow growth...and we will be in a terrible position for years to come.

I can see it now - people yelling at the next POTUS for raising taxes - which MUST BE DONE...as if it is the fault of who follows Trump.

Obviously the "tax cut" was not revenue neutral as we had been well on the way to lower deficits with the existing tax structure. A few more loopholes closed and a booming economy should have done the job of getting it under control.

Now we are set so far back that we might as well even stop pretending we will ever address it. Heck, at this point Trump should just do away with ALL taxes and just print money . That should help his popularity.
Why did the Trump haters seem to have no problem with Obama writing blank checks to everyone and racking up trillions of debt?
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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Obama walked into a recession. Trump walked into 4% unemployment. That is a FACT.

I won't complain about Trump's tariffs because the people that are being hurt are the people that should be hurt - his voters. I do have an issue with giving famers billions in "tariff relief". We are borrowing money from China to pay farmers not to sell to China.

We are wasting taxpayer money on all the Republican boondoggles. They are even trying to force utilities to buy coal power which is more expensive. That said, there are still only 50,000 coal miners and that number shrinks every year.

Trump and his kids will certainly walk away richer, he's making sure of it, but the economy is already on track to shrink, the deficit is exploding (his tax cuts did not pay for themselves just like Mexico didn't pay for the wall) and Trump will furiously blame everyone else.
And his followers will believe him and repeat his lies. Kool Aid for everyone
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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This is the way it always goes. Bush left a Obama a flaming pile of excrement and Obama left Trump a booming economy. Trump then gave tax cuts where 83% benefited the top 1%, creating an ever increasing deficit. But he alway took away tools that will help should the economy retract because there's no way to cut more. This will not end well.
Obama gave most people a 43% increase in healthcare premium costs. Pretty much erasing any "boom" we had. Trump did not inherit a good economy.
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Cash is in our pockets and the time to spend if ever is now.
Do they give you bonus for posting long reply?
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Obama gave most people a 43% increase in healthcare premium costs. Pretty much erasing any "boom" we had. Trump did not inherit a good economy.
Most people? so 51% of the country received a 43% increase in healthcare premiums? This is exactly what we see. Trump supporters pretending that Trump didn't take office in a booming economy with 4% unemployment and the DAY he took office, the same people saying it was all fake suddenly said it was all real.
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure you rewind to 3 years ago and listen to the people that right wingers on this forum worship...you know Hannity, Limabaugh, etc, and you will hear railing against the debt and deficit on a regular basis.

All of a sudden, it's not an issue. Now that the messiah is in office, the marching orders for the cavalcade of right wing dupes who post here regularly have dramatically changed. Shocking.
This one is truly unbelievable. It's almost like a dude (or dude-et, not sure who he is) like Rushbo would want death for traffic in drugs and then become a opiate addict himself. This could never happen!

The level of hypocrisy is way off the charts.....no one expects human perfection, but it's not like they even have to fake any more! They simply change their ways and say "make sure you never mention that talking point again".

As cynical as am (for good reason), the Republicans and "Conservatives" have blown away even the craziest fiction one could come up with. They stand for absolutely nothing...except now approving of crime, treason and immoral behaviors of all types...in ADDITION to their usual "war on drugs" and "gimme a tax cut from deficit" lines.

Even tho many of their excuses were all BS (like trickle down), at least they felt they needed cover. Now they just outright lie, cheat, steal and argue with dead people.
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