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Old 03-29-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Battery tech certainly needs to improve -- I agree with you there -- but the reality is that it will not improve without consistent funding for research and development, and that is going to require some government involvement. Private investment as a primary source of funding just isn't reliable as most investors want fast results with large payoffs. Investors are also notorious for pulling out whenever setbacks occur.
The US government is already spending huge sums of money on battery technology. While I like Elon Musk, his entire business is just government-subsidies. From his contracts with NASA, to his Gigafactory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigafactory_1

The National Science Foundation alone doles out about $8 billion a year. And trust me, the United States wants to be on the cutting-edge of any future-energy technology. And we are the leaders in basically all technological fields, and have been since we stole all those German scientists after WWII.

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And setbacks WILL occur with this sort of stuff. That's just how it is... battery tech is generally a high risk area of investment as the vast majority of prototypes never see the light of day.
I agree, and virtually every company that Obama gave money to in the stimulus package went bankrupt. Did any of that money make a difference at all?

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Tesla is selling their current lithium packs because they need some way of funding their R&D. Not ideal, but what are they supposed to do? They're the ones taking the biggest risks developing battery technology right now.
Tesla is selling their current lithium packs because they are trying to make money, and there really aren't better alternatives to the current lithium technology. The government could give them billions more than they already are and it wouldn't make a difference.

And the vast-majority of actual research and development is not being carried-out by people like Elon Musk. It is being done in university laboratories. Elon Musk is just taking existing technology and finding ways to mass-produce it cheaply.

 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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At this very moment as I type this in California:

21,070 MW Current demand


9,571 MW Solar serving load
1,956 MW Wind serving load

64% of load met with wind and solar. That's not "supplemental" power. Right now fossil fuel is supplementing the renewables and it's working great.




Fossil fuel baseload never has mechanical breakdowns? Of course they do.

Despite the high usage of solar and wind we rarely ever have power outages, and when we do, it's because a storm knocked a tree into an overhead line.

Solar and wind are reliable, dependable, and sustainable. Granted it makes the job of managing the mix of generation a lot more difficult, but it can be done. California proves it every day.
Right now fossil fuel is holding up the grid and maintaining 60hz so your computer keeps working.....
 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Newsweek. hahahahahahahaha

They are spiraling down down down now that Mueller has proven them 100% wrong about Trump.

It's as bad as them printing 120,000 issues that declared Hillary the winner of the 2016 election.




They're nothing but fodder now for "orange man bad".
So your in agreement that when the wind stop blowing there’s no electricity ? That would explain a lot about you and the other Trump supporters.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 06:49 PM
 
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So your in agreement that when the wind stop blowing there’s no electricity ? That would explain a lot about you and the other Trump supporters.
You don’t agree????
 
Old 03-29-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So your in agreement that when the wind stop blowing there’s no electricity ? That would explain a lot about you and the other Trump supporters.
True, it would mean we understand science and Demonicraps don't.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 07:04 PM
 
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I would expect my junior high school students to be able to explain this to the president. Does the man READ???
 
Old 03-29-2019, 07:05 PM
 
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I would expect my junior high school students to be able to explain this to the president. Does the man READ???
Your students must came from brainwashing of the public schools.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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You don’t agree????
Not totally no. The wind charges said batteries granted the MORE wind the BETTER the charge and there’s no telling how long the batteries will hold the charge. It wouldn’t make sense to have a wind generator where there is little no no wind. Wind power works best in conjunction with something else if placed in a bad area. It’s like saying that solar power ONLY works when the sun is out.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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They understand basic science.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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People still fighting the inevitable. It's really pathetic and sad to see. Renewable's rising, gasoline cars dying, Cancer-causing Coal lovers crying. We want pollution! We want health epidemics! We want to plunder our resources! Crazy the thought process in some! Screw our children's future, right?!
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