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Old 03-29-2019, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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After consultation with detectives from the Chandler Police Department's Special Victims Unit, the residents were given a final opportunity to exit and take their child to the hospital," the statement read. "Upon their failure to do so, the front door was breached and the family members were called out of the residence."

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DCS agents then took custody of the boy and his two sisters, ages 4 and 6, the report states. Two of the children were transported to the hospital by ambulance, and the third was transported to the hospital by DCS, according to the statement.


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Old 03-29-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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I believe he was taken straight to the hospital when they took him from the home. That was the whole point.
I’m sure they did. I was wondering if he was actually hospitalized for RSV. Not just checked out at the hospital and then released. I’m sorry that this question seems to be so annoying to you.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/about/symptoms.html

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Most RSV infections go away on their own in a week or two. You can manage fever and pain with over-the-counter fever reducers and pain relievers, such as acetaminophen or ibuprofen. <snip>Healthy infants and adults infected with RSV do not usually need to be hospitalized. But some people with RSV infection, especially infants younger than 6 months of age and older adults, may need to be hospitalized if they are having trouble breathing or are dehydrated. In most of these cases, hospitalization only lasts a few days.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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The parents were charged today with felony child abuse for not seeking medical treatment for the kid after the doctor said his condition was life-threatening and they refused to allow child services workers to check on his well-being.
Except it wasn't. Wouldn't this be like a bank teller saying you robbed the bank for taking money from your account?
 
Old 03-29-2019, 08:10 PM
 
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I’m sure they did. I was wondering if he was actually hospitalized for RSV. Not just checked out at the hospital and then released. I’m sorry that this question seems to be so annoying to you.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/about/symptoms.html

I'm not annoyed.

I think the fact that 2 of the children were taken to the hospital via ambulance, while the third was driven there indicates they were in bad shape and it was not just checked out. I would guess the third child who was driven there (no ambulance) was just checked out to be on the safe side.
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Old 03-29-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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I'm not annoyed.

I think the fact that 2 of the children were taken to the hospital via ambulance, while the third was driven there indicates they were in bad shape and it was not just checked out. I would guess the third child who was driven there (no ambulance) was just checked out to be on the safe side.
I think they suspected meningitis so would have taken them to the hospital and checked them for that. And after breaking down the door and pointing guns at the family, I’m sure they continued to treat it as a serious situation. As for any other details regarding their treatment. I doubt we’ll ever know.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Libertarians literally recommend "throwing the baby out along with the bathwater" & "free baby markets" & do so with a straight face.

It's nonsensical.
You're right.

We wouldn't want to infringe on the government's monopolized baby market where kids suffer and are abused daily while the babysitter and oversight are one in the same (that same government).

 
Old 03-29-2019, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Libertarians literally recommend "throwing the baby out along with the bathwater" & "free baby markets" & do so with a straight face.

It's nonsensical.
No libertarian or anarchist has ever ordered nukes or drone bombs to be dropped on babies.

No libertarian or anarchist has ever said the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it."

So don't come at me with virtue-signaling and moralizing.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You're right.

We wouldn't want to infringe on the government's monopolized baby market where kids suffer and are abused daily while the babysitter and oversight are one in the same (that same government).

Those State child "protective" services sure do a number, too.
 
Old 03-29-2019, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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The police followed procedure (unless stuff is different in AZ).

They went to the house to check on the child, the parents wouldn't open the door, wouldn't show the child, they talked to the dad on the phone and told him just take your kid to the hospital. The parents created a barricade situation. This went on for two hours.

IF that child would have died during that time? Some of these same people would still be calling for their heads saying they dragged their feet while a child was in danger.
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Old 03-29-2019, 11:13 PM
 
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The American Gestapo.
Sounds more like The Nanny State
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