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Old 04-02-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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It is rigged to give smaller states some voice instead of none.


The Founders never intended a direct democracy.
But they would still have a voice, it would be related to the numbers of people they had living there?
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:49 AM
 
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Wow, the left lives crammed in like sardines.

It is well known that Trump won the majority of U.S. counties—2,649 to Hillary Clinton’s 503

Trump: 2649
Hillary: 503
Why would counties be the relevant thing to look at? Surely it's people that matter, trees and rocks haven't been given the vote, people have!
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Right before that
at 12:33 AM on Nov 7 2012
Donald Trump tweeted:


This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!
Read a book and you'll understand that we are not a Democracy.
Your public education was a failure.
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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But they would still have a voice, it would be related to the numbers of people they had living there?
nyc population 8.3 million

Wyoming 544k
Vermont 621k
n. Dakota 640k
Alaska 690k
s. Dakota 821k
Delaware 885k
Montana 974k
Rhode island 1.01 million
Hawaii 1.2 million
Maine 1.3 million

total 7.8 million

10 states combined less than the population of NY CITY

repealing the electoral college would take away any say of the smaller rural states



look at Chicago...ok the population of Chicago (A CITY) is 2.7 million..the entire STATE of Nebraska is 1.8 million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 2.6 million out weigh and entire state (of 1.8 million) of rural farms producing all the food for the urban jungle...should those 1.8 million not count just because the city of 2.6 million is more welfare babies

look at Phoenix...ok the population of Phoenix (A CITY) is 1.6 million..the entire STATE of Wyoming is 550k million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 1.6 million out weigh an entire state of rural farms producing all the food for the urban jungle...should those 550k not count just because the city of 1.6 million says so...awfully fascist to think that way




the electoral college is there for a reason...
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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But they would still have a voice, it would be related to the numbers of people they had living there?
Bottom line is if only the counties that voted for Hillary had a voice then they would start make laws for those people. Then people through-out the country would need to move there because the rest of the country wouldn't matter to the politicians. You think you lived in small, expensive, overcrowded, high crime living conditions now. Wait till that happens.

It is common sense really.

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Old 04-02-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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Why would counties be the relevant thing to look at? Surely it's people that matter, trees and rocks haven't been given the vote, people have!
Counties are made up of people who live within them.

Use your noggin instead of parroting liberal media
. The electoral college is there for a reason...
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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But they would still have a voice, it would be related to the numbers of people they had living there?
more liberal elitism ....




the leftist master party is still spewing its garbage
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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the problem is that there are over 1500 different economies, 1800 different cost of living areas, and a multitude of different opinions


say candidate "A" says screw the small states lets sell them to Canada and mexico, and let's give all benefits ONLY to the cities


so your CITY should ENSLAVE an entire set of states... mighty democratic of a thought pattern


the whole idea is that the EC makes it equal for a nation of STATES... this is not the peoples democracy of America.. it is the united STATES of America...

the electoral college is NEEDED

New York city(the city not the state) has a bigger population than over 10 other states COMBINED

nyc population 8.3 million

Wyoming 544k
Vermont 621k
n. Dakota 640k
Alaska 690k
s. Dakota 821k
Delaware 885k
Montana 974k
Rhode island 1.01 million
Hawaii 1.2 million
Maine 1.3 million

total 7.8 million

10 states combined less than the population of NY CITY

repealing the electoral college would take away any say of the smaller rural states



look at Chicago...ok the population of Chicago (A CITY) is 2.7 million..the entire STATE of Nebraska is 1.8 million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 2.6 million out weigh and entire state (of 1.8 million) of rural farms producing all the food for the urban jungle...should those 1.8 million not count just because the city of 2.6 million is more welfare babies

look at Phoenix...ok the population of Phoenix (A CITY) is 1.6 million..the entire STATE of Wyoming is 550k million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 1.6 million out weigh an entire state of rural farms producing all the food for the urban jungle...should those 550k not count just because the city of 1.6 million says so...awfully fascist to think that way




the electoral college is there for a reason...


When establishing our federal government, smaller States like Rhode Island had feared they would have no voice, and therefore no protection, against the more populous States like New York or Massachusetts. Similarly, the sparsely populated agricultural regions feared an inability to protect their interests against the fishing and shipping industries dominant in the more populous coastal States. These concerns on how to preserve individual State voices and diverse regional interests caused the framers to establish a bi-cameral rather than a uni-cameral legislative system.

In that wise plan, one body preserved the will of the majority as determined by population and the other preserved the will of the majority as determined by the States. As Constitution signer James Madison confirmed:

The Constitution is nicely balanced with the federative and popular principles; the Senate are the guardians of the former, and the House of Representatives of the latter; and any attempts to destroy this balance, under whatever specious names or pretenses they may be presented, should be watched with a jealous eye.

The Founding Fathers considered all forms of government; thoughtfully, intellectually, historically and they debated and agonized and then they compromised, agreed and then pledged their lives their fortunes and their sacred honor to establish, protect and enable the government they had created. The education, the intellect and the faith of those men can not be underestimated. We can only bring poverty and unrest if we deign to ignore their wisdom and replace our Constitutional Republic, the rule of law, with a Democracy, rule by the mob.

The point is, undermining or ditching the Electoral Collage is a part of the plan to convert America to neo-Marxist mob rule with top-down control by the national (and global) ruling class....the simple fact is the national vote SCHEME is just that a scheme being pushed by the likes of George Soros and the fascist liberals looking to bring some hybrid of Marxism to the USA
Of course you are right with everything you say....the democrats simply don't care about logic, and they want MOB RULE and the ability to win every election from here on out.
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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the problem is that there are over 1500 different economies, 1800 different cost of living areas, and a multitude of different opinions


say candidate "A" says screw the small states lets sell them to Canada and mexico, and let's give all benefits ONLY to the cities


so your CITY should ENSLAVE an entire set of states... mighty democratic of a thought pattern


the whole idea is that the EC makes it equal for a nation of STATES... this is not the peoples democracy of America.. it is the united STATES of America...

the electoral college is NEEDED

New York city(the city not the state) has a bigger population than over 10 other states COMBINED

nyc population 8.3 million

Wyoming 544k
Vermont 621k
n. Dakota 640k
Alaska 690k
s. Dakota 821k
Delaware 885k
Montana 974k
Rhode island 1.01 million
Hawaii 1.2 million
Maine 1.3 million

total 7.8 million

10 states combined less than the population of NY CITY

repealing the electoral college would take away any say of the smaller rural states



look at Chicago...ok the population of Chicago (A CITY) is 2.7 million..the entire STATE of Nebraska is 1.8 million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 2.6 million out weigh and entire state (of 1.8 million) of rural farms producing all the food for the urban jungle...should those 1.8 million not count just because the city of 2.6 million is more welfare babies

look at Phoenix...ok the population of Phoenix (A CITY) is 1.6 million..the entire STATE of Wyoming is 550k million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 1.6 million out weigh an entire state of rural farms producing all the food for the urban jungle...should those 550k not count just because the city of 1.6 million says so...awfully fascist to think that way
I don't really see how democracy is related to fascism but hey.

A city probably should negate a whole state if that city has enough people, but in any case its not as if everybody in the city will vote one way and everybody in the farming state will vote the opposite, there will be supporters for both main candidates in both areas.

The rural states rely on the cities as much if not more than the other way round, where produces the wealth that pays the farm subsidies for agri-business, where makes all the manufactured goods, where invents stuff like the Internet, phones etc that rural areas rely on?
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Old 04-02-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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Counties are made up of people who live within them.

Use your noggin instead of parroting liberal media
. The electoral college is there for a reason...
Yes, i know they are, and those red counties have fewer people living in them than the blue counties, that's the point.
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