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Old 04-06-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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what the hell are you talking about? kids receive a free education.
You know very well what I argued. Counter it or don't reply.
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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College education in America is not free.
Neither is elementary education. As I argued though, expanding what we already have is not an extreme position.
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Do you want to hear the truth or maybe you can't handle the truth.

https://www.filmsforaction.org/artic...yMUlM.facebook
AOC is only a centrist if you're comparing her to Lenin and Stalin.
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:37 PM
 
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People only support the Green New Deal only to the extent that they don't personally have to pay for it or change their lifestyle. Sort of like the Hollywood crowd that lives behind walls and gates and with security cameras or guards who send their kids to private schools and who live in communities that would never allow low income housing telling us we need to embrace the hordes of illegals into our communities and our schools. And as they jet around the world and live in 10,000 sq. ft. mansions they tell the rest of us we need to reduce our carbon footprints.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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As I noted already we had stronger regulations on the markets in the past. Going back to them is not extreme.
Bernie, AOC and even Warren are not simply about "stronger regulations". They are indeed extreme, and especially Bernie and AOC, too stupid to know it. Bernie has been admonished multiple times by Scandanavian leaders that he is way off range with his ideas, and to stop making false comparisons between his ideas and their economies.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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I wonder how many forum MODS here are MODERATES.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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Bernie, AOC and even Warren are not simply about "stronger regulations". They are indeed extreme, and especially Bernie and AOC, too stupid to know it. Bernie has been admonished multiple times by Scandanavian leaders that he is way off range with his ideas, and to stop making false comparisons between his ideas and their economies.
No he hasn't. I never made any sort of comparisons.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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No he hasn't. I never made any sort of comparisons.
https://www.investors.com/politics/c...-it-socialist/
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:34 PM
 
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"we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people."

"it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard to be very, very poor."

"And that makes a lot of sense to me."


Bernie's words.

But we digress. This is about Danes being offending by Sanders using the word "socialist" to describe their form of government.

Why put it in parenthesis?

Yes, "Investors.com" isn't big on anyone that wants to look after the people as opposed to Wall Street.

Post an honest critique.
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Old 04-06-2019, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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"we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people."

"it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard to be very, very poor."

"And that makes a lot of sense to me."


Bernie's words.

But we digress. This is about Danes being offending by Sanders using the word "socialist" to describe their form of government.
Yep, Bernie has the feelz. We already know that.

But I was addressing the point that you denied Bernie has been publically spanked by the PM of one of his favorite Nordic models he refers to over and over (and that wasnt the only time), calling them socialist. He should pay attention to that (but he wont. That is how the willfully ignorant roll)

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Post an honest critique.

I already have, and in this very thread.


Bernie, in his 2016 run, despite his love of Denmark very unwillingly released his (ever changing) tax plans for America if he was elected. They showed he was indeed in step with the divisive class warfare rhetoric he has been spouting for years, and the evil and immoral 1% needed to pay, and pay heavily. His plans were very progressive for heavy taxation at the top. The capital gains rates would also go way up, and he mentioned 96% rate from the 50's with great glee on more than one occasion. Eat the rich. That plays well with the envious and less informed for sure. (Just a quick glance at the average Bernie Bro would show you that)

Meanwhile in Denmark, it is obvious the heavy welfare state is paid for by everybody, not just the upper, upper middle class up to the .01%. An income at just 1.2% of the national median pays at a 60% effective marginal rate. And they have a pretty heavy VAT across the board.

The capital gains rates are lower than the U.S. also.

https://taxfoundation.org/how-scandi...ment-spending/


Hypocritical Bernie doesnt want the "Nordic model" as it is. He wants a far more regressive, authoritarian, dictorial model, with the goverment controlling most everything. He just pitches it as "equality".

Bernie is a lying idiot.
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