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Who says they are natural rights? Who gets to say definitively what's on the list? What if somebody else disagrees with their list of natural rights, thinks some others should be on there?
Well, you can disagree with my natural right to defend myself, my family and my property and see what happens when I exercise those rights.
US constitutional rights come from that government document rather than being necessarily natural rights though there is overlap.
Is ironic that you say they don't change, and then go on to quote an example involving the 1st AMENDMENT to the constitution. To amend means to change, the 1st amendment wasn't originally in the constitution, but then the constitutional rights were changed to incorporate it.
Well, it IS being used to pay for the food, clothing, housing, and medical care of the 100,000 illegal aliens being dumped into our country's communities each month before they get their asylum hearing (which could be an 8 year wait) which, if asylum is granted (true in only 10% of cases), would allow them to work in order to support themselves. Who did you think was paying for all that?
Illegal aliens have priority over US citizens, by law. Ask Dems and the 9th Circuit Court why that is.
Yes, I completely agree. It's unacceptable, but for some reason, a lot of people don't seem to understand that a country cannot function properly with open borders.
Till then, I guess we're stuck with our tax dollars going down a black hole. :/
Swear to G-d, you people cannot read or apparently accept it when someone uses words like ALL or EVERYTHING.
From posts in this very thread, by me:
So yes, in answer to your question, I also complain about the bloated military and corrupt mass incarceration stealing your tax dollars as well.
All of it is based on an immoral system taking under threat of violence. Every...single...thing....government does. I cannot possibly make it any more consistent or clear.
I haven't seen those posts, so chill out. Glad to know you're consistent though, many people (on all ends of the political lines) aren't.
I know I said "you" but that was directed at people in general. And of course. If someone broke into my house, I have to assume they mean me harm. I am going to do my best to protect myself and family by any means necessary. Wouldn't you?
US constitutional rights come from that government document rather than being necessarily natural rights though there is overlap.
No they don't. Just the opposite. Government defines the rights they protect. They don't come from government. Government can only take away rights.
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Originally Posted by MnM258
Is ironic that you say they don't change, and then go on to quote an example involving the 1st AMENDMENT to the constitution. To amend means to change, the 1st amendment wasn't originally in the constitution, but then the constitutional rights were changed to incorporate it.
The 1st amendment is part of the Bill of Rights, which is prohibition on governmental power. A constitutional protection for individual liberties. The Founders saw the ability to speak as a natural right protected by the First Amendment.
Anyway, to answer the question, among the developed world (and increasingly among the developing world), only in the US is universal healthcare considered "extremist far left".
US constitutional rights come from that government document rather than being necessarily natural rights though there is overlap.
Is ironic that you say they don't change, and then go on to quote an example involving the 1st AMENDMENT to the constitution. To amend means to change, the 1st amendment wasn't originally in the constitution, but then the constitutional rights were changed to incorporate it.
The first ten amendments were proposed by Congress in 1789, at their first session; and, having received the ratification of the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States, they became a part of the Constitution December 15, 1791, and are known as the Bill of Rights.
Constitution—the Seven Articles—establishes a framework of national government and only incidentally deals with individuals’ rights. the Bill of rights was added to PROTECT the natural rights from the government
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