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Old 04-07-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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...and here's GISS global temperature as it looks plotted on a thermometer...like people normally think of temperature

no one would have noticed...it's only 8/10th of one degree

https://suyts.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/image6.png
That chart starts in 1860. Do you really think that thermometers in 1860 were as accurate as computerized ones now? So you cannot compare the two.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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Start any year you want to...makes no difference

...it's NASA's numbers...send they a quick note
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Let's not be asking these troubling questions, might wake up Gore from his nap, get on his soap box in the usual blizzard and tell us we're all doomed........AGAIN

al gore is awake, but he knows no one is listening to him so he created a new puppet and named it AOC and sent it to congress to speak for him, in the hopes that it would be more believable than he is. unfortunately for him his puppet is flopping just like he is.


as for climate change, the problem for the alarmists is that the climate is far too complex for a few equations the alarmists rely on to determine what is really going on with the climate.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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During and after WW2, economies kicked into high gear, with massive outputs of CO2. Yet temps fell from their highs in the 1930s.

If CO2 is the "driver" of climate, which did temps fall over this 35 year period?

The year 1936 recorded the hottest thermometer readings of any year in the last 5,000. However, these days NOAA reports only its “adjusted” temperatures, which always seem to go only higher. In fact, the first surge of human-emitted carbon dioxide after World War II should have produced the biggest surge of warming – if CO2 is the control factor. Instead temperatures went down from 1940 to 1975.

You failed with that idiotic Mars comparison thread so now you're trying this? At some point you'll come to the realization just how little you understand climate science and learn from those who are more knowledgeable than you. At least, for your sake, I hope you do.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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During and after WW2, economies kicked into high gear, with massive outputs of CO2. Yet temps fell from their highs in the 1930s.

If CO2 is the "driver" of climate, which did temps fall over this 35 year period?

The year 1936 recorded the hottest thermometer readings of any year in the last 5,000. However, these days NOAA reports only its “adjusted” temperatures, which always seem to go only higher. In fact, the first surge of human-emitted carbon dioxide after World War II should have produced the biggest surge of warming – if CO2 is the control factor. Instead temperatures went down from 1940 to 1975.
The sun and our orbit were the reason. Now it is a 1500 ramp up in massive heating. My snow ball effect is taking place now as the ramp up in heating gets faster and faster. Anyone living past the next 70's will have a hard life.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:38 PM
 
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You failed with that idiotic Mars comparison thread so now you're trying this? At some point you'll come to the realization just how little you understand climate science and learn from those who are more knowledgeable than you. At least, for your sake, I hope you do.
Is this the same guy who didn't understand why Mars was not as hot as Earth?

Oh, good Lord.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:40 PM
 
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The Flat Earth society is at it again I see.


The chief members of the flat earth society are actually AGW proponants.


If you really believed in science, your would not believe in AGW. It has not satisfied the most basic premise of the scientific method-


"refuting the null hypothesis"


This states that factors other than CO2 have been refuted as causing "climate change". By their own admission, CO2 has never achieved this "status", thus it is an unproven hypothesis.


Given that the AGW crowd knows nothing of science, they don't understand this. Since I would expect every elementary school child to know this, it is not surprising that the AGW crowd is unaware of this basic principle of science.


Read up- the is written for elementary school students, so the AGW crowd should be able to follow it:


https://explorable.com/null-hypothesis
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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"There is still a strong belief system that greenhouse gases control the climate, and so if that is your belief system, then it doesn’t really matter what the evidence shows."
Not a belief...The evidence shows that it's a fact.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Oh well, let more of that crap out and global warming is solved.
The common name for that "crap" is smog, and I'm not surprised that you want it back.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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...and here's GISS global temperature as it looks plotted on a thermometer...like people normally think of temperature

no one would have noticed...it's only 8/10th of one degree

https://suyts.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/image6.png
No one noticed? Then why are we having this discussion? Earths temperature is a delicate balance...4 degrees cooler would cause an ice age...

Global temperatures in 2018 were 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.83 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York..
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