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Old 04-12-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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Your statement, "Everytime SHE leaves the house without him? She can bring something back" relates to none of the above statements. The vaccinated mom is unlikely to bring back any VPD and give it to her kid(s). Contrary to what a lot of people believe, you don't bring a lot of disease back on your clothes, and if you're really concerned about that, you can change when you get home.

That mom (to be, I believe at this point) has a good plan.
I think it’s pretty obvious that she’s referring to mom catching something and giving it to her baby. It can happen. It’s not a crazy concept.

 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Your statement, "Everytime SHE leaves the house without him? She can bring something back" relates to none of the above statements. The vaccinated mom is unlikely to bring back any VPD and give it to her kid(s). Contrary to what a lot of people believe, you don't bring a lot of disease back on your clothes, and if you're really concerned about that, you can change when you get home.

That mom (to be, I believe at this point) has a good plan.
Because I'm pretty sure the poster will next say that mom can catch the measles or pertussis and bring them home, I'll point out that the mom has been vaccinated against these diseases and it would be extremely unlikely that she would contract them. She's vaccinated to create a barrier of immunity around her baby, which is basically the point of herd immunity.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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I think it’s pretty obvious that she’s referring to mom catching something and giving it to her baby. It can happen. It’s not a crazy concept.
Darn, I didn't type fast enough!
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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Because I'm pretty sure the poster will next say that mom can catch the measles or pertussis and bring them home, I'll point out that the mom has been vaccinated against these diseases and it would be extremely unlikely that she would contract them. She's vaccinated to create a barrier of immunity around her baby, which is basically the point of herd immunity.
She can also bring home the flu, strep, norovirus, etc. The list goes on. It’s not a crazy point.

Cocooning seems like a good idea in theory and it doesn’t seem harmful but does it really work?
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/gro...cough-newborns
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
Your statement, "Everytime SHE leaves the house without him? She can bring something back" relates to none of the above statements. The vaccinated mom is unlikely to bring back any VPD and give it to her kid(s). Contrary to what a lot of people believe, you don't bring a lot of disease back on your clothes, and if you're really concerned about that, you can change when you get home.

That mom (to be, I believe at this point) has a good plan.
Thanks. And yes, she’s still in “to be” status.

My daughter is the least dramatic, emotional or needlessly frightened person I know. She’s fearless, but she’s also very analytical (she’s a scientist so it figures she would be) and she’s read copiously about vaccines and VPDs and based her plans on that research.

Her plan is well reasoned and appropriate for birth to 6 months. She won’t be a mom who wraps her kid in bubble wrap. It’d be hard to live the outdoor active lifestyle she does with a big ole wad of bubble wrap tagging along.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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She can also bring home the flu, strep, norovirus, etc. The list goes on. It’s not a crazy point.
Of course she can. But the topic is avoiding the unvaccinated. Aside from the flu, we don't vaccinate for those illnesses. Her breastmilk (assuming she's nursing) will provide some antibodies, but when it comes to a newborn, I would not take chances by thrusting them in the face of someone with pertussis or measles or any other serious illness that is currently in an outbreak in the area.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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Because I'm pretty sure the poster will next say that mom can catch the measles or pertussis and bring them home, I'll point out that the mom has been vaccinated against these diseases and it would be extremely unlikely that she would contract them. She's vaccinated to create a barrier of immunity around her baby, which is basically the point of herd immunity.
Yep and she’s told any family and friends they must have a current flu and TDaP if they’d like to be around the baby before 6 months of age.

Could he still get a cold or any number of things? Sure, but her concern is avoiding VPDs not the common cold.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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Of course she can. But the topic is avoiding the unvaccinated. Aside from the flu, we don't vaccinate for those illnesses. Her breastmilk (assuming she's nursing) will provide some antibodies, but when it comes to a newborn, I would not take chances by thrusting them in the face of someone with pertussis or measles or any other serious illness that is currently in an outbreak in the area.

I respect UNC’s daughter in doing whatever she feels is best as a mom. I’m just saying, newtovenice’s point was not crazy and people were twisting it left and right to try to make it seem like she was saying something she clearly was not.

Being unvaccinated does not mean that that person has measles or pertussis. No one would thrust their newborn in the face of someone who’s sick, not even with a cold. That’s a bit dramatic.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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I respect UNC’s daughter in doing whatever she feels is best as a mom. I’m just saying, newtovenice’s point was not crazy and people were twisting it left and right to try to make it seem like she was saying something she clearly was not.

Being unvaccinated does not mean that that person has measles or pertussis. No one would thrust their newborn in the face of someone who’s sick, not even with a cold. That’s a bit dramatic.
Normally not, but I believe the woman in question lives in an area with an outbreak. So in that case, the unvaccinated have a greater chance than normal of being infected with whatever is currently going around. In most places and most of the time, the thing that's "going around" is generally a cold or, during the winter, the flu. I kept my son mostly at home the first couple of months because he was born during flu season. (I was never offered a flu shot during my pregnancies, so I'm thinking that wasn't common in the early years of this century.) If we lived in a place where there was a measles outbreak, of course I'd keep my newborn out of public areas.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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I respect UNC’s daughter in doing whatever she feels is best as a mom. I’m just saying, newtovenice’s point was not crazy and people were twisting it left and right to try to make it seem like she was saying something she clearly was not.

Being unvaccinated does not mean that that person has measles or pertussis. No one would thrust their newborn in the face of someone who’s sick, not even with a cold. That’s a bit dramatic.
NewtoVenice also said:

“I predict as he grows up will have tremendous health problems as his immune system has never been allowed to develop. She's is doing a horrible disservice to her child.

She has the best of intentions, but this is not a good strategy.”

She believes that being cautious about VPDs during birth to 6 months is not a good strategy. Forgive me if I’m skeptical about your insistence on what she would or would not do.
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