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Old 04-10-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Obviously, especially with the texts talking about it. And that chubby professor who was fishing for anybody related to Trump's campaign which basically kicked it off and is a prime source of focus right now. Obama had high level awareness and approval given the type of partisans that despised Trump that were put into place. But essentially, it was the Clintons running anything to do with the Campaign.

Obama being from the dirty school of Politicians knows how its done. Part of that deal as well was to allow Hillary to have her own server to build their $$ and pay to play. The money from the Clinton Foundation was basically to be used to win the Presidency, collect debts from other Democrats (i.e. the DNC). After her loss, Donations have dropped off a cliff o near zero now.

Also, For pretty much since Bill left Office, the Clintons were putting in place all sorts of people everywhere, including recommendations for Obama's picks in the intelligence industry among others (especially after 08). They were going to put some kind of hit squad against any Republican candidate anyways. At first, they laughed off Trump, but when his chances of winning became serious, it was a little late in the game, and hard to initially figure out since Trump was so new and an unknown.

That explains the urgency you see in Strozok (he's a major partisan hack who is ignorant and honestly believes Trump is Russian evil IMO) as well as 'Deep Staters' or 'Believers' according to Comey (like Page) needing to get this operation started ASAP. They had no choice really but to use that Prof to accelerate their opening of investigation into Trump.

McCabe being a prime link to all this. Comey tacitly approved all this since he couldn't stand Trump too and was more in line with Strozok (Jesus syndrome).

Barr sees all this. Can't pull the wool over his eye, and many aren't even going to try.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Let's do an investigation and see the resulting evidence. Unlike conservatives who wish to suppress transparency into things like Mueller report, Trump's tax returns, etc. I'm all for it.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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Says this without providing any proof.

Barr is AG because he had already attacked the Russia Investigation. The man was awarded the position for his known views and the expected help he would provide Trump.

The Justice Department is just another toady department for Trump these days. All the people Trump is puttimng in place throughout the government DO NOT SERVE THE PEOPLE OR CONSTITUTION OF THE USA. They serve their one master - Donald J Trump.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Barr says he thinks spying occurred on 2016 Trump campaign


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1RM1ZC

If what Barr said is true do you think it was the Obama administration? And if it was do think those responsible should be investigated by the DOJ and if proven true do you think they should be prosecuted?

Waiting for the left and their surrogates in the MSM to down play or spin this allegation.

Yawn.
Old news.

Yes, spying occurred on the Trump campaign...not by Obama but by the US Intelligence agencies.
They were originally spying on Russia, when they started intercepting all kinds of communication between the
Russian operatives and people within the Trump campaign. The British were the first ones to realize that something was up.


Quote:
WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.
American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/u...ons-trump.html
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U.S. intelligence picked up conversations of Russian government officials discussing associates of President Trump as early as 2015, months before he declared his candidacy, according to a report Wednesday.
The Wall Street Journal reported American intelligence agencies overheard Russians talking about meetings outside the U.S. involving Russian government officials and Trump business associates or advisers.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/u...as-2015-report
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Britain's Government Communications Headquarters became aware of suspicious "interactions" between associates of Donald Trump and suspected or known Russian operatives in late 2015, The Guardian reported on Thursday. The Guardian's report — which said other intelligence agencies in Germany, Estonia, and Poland also picked up communications between Trump's associates and Russian agents — is consistent with earlier revelations about what spurred the US intelligence community to launch its investigation last summer into Trump's ties to Russia.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brit...ia-ties-2017-4
If you go around doing things like that, yes you are going to bring attention to yourself.
And yes they will investigate. It's their job.


Set your house on fire, then when smoke comes billowing out of it, don't be too shocked
when the fire department arrives!
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: North America
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e.v.i.d.e.n.c.e.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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What he "thinks" isn't worth a bucket of warm spit, any more than what he "thinks" about the Mueller Report.

Show us the evidence, please.

I agree what Barr thinks is kind of irrelevant. But what the Barr summary and Mueller final report says is very relevant.

We got the summary of the Mueller report by Barr and Mueller didn't counter one word of the Barr/Rosenstein report, so I have to assume what Barr summary report said was true.

When the Mueller report comes out we will see what Mueller has to say about Obama and his surrogates spying on Trump. And then will have to wait for the Inspector General Horowitz report on the possible underhandedness of Obama/Hillary and possible misuse of the F1SA warrants, due out later this month. Than we will have to wait to see if the DOJ acts on Horowitz findings.

One more thing on 'Thinking' I have heard two years by CNN and MSNBC 'I think' they had the scoop on the Russian/Trump collusion without one bit of evidence except 'I think' and now after the Barr report nothing but more 'I think' by their talking heads on Barr motives.
Even that has trickled down and now its all about Trump's tax return and there is no crisis on the Southern border.....what's next. Waiting with baited breath for the next leftist 'I think' conspiracy?
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I think it's best for quotes to be taken out of context so they can be twisted in the most conveniently stupid ways.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Says this without providing any proof.

Barr is AG because he had already attacked the Russia Investigation. The man was awarded the position for his known views and the expected help he would provide Trump.

The Justice Department is just another toady department for Trump these days. All the people Trump is puttimng in place throughout the government DO NOT SERVE THE PEOPLE OR CONSTITUTION OF THE USA. They serve their one master - Donald J Trump.

Barr wasn't investigation Trump/Russian collusion...Mueller was and he found no collusion....didn't you read the summary or you didn't really care because you already agreed with the lefts views that Barr and Mueller are corrupt?
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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e.v.i.d.e.n.c.e.
Trumpers know that heresay is easier and oftentimes more effective than evidence.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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I think it's best for quotes to be taken out of context so they can be twisted in the most conveniently stupid ways.




Here is some fun reading!
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017...2591492164656/


https://www.businessinsider.com/brit...ia-ties-2017-4


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/u...as-2015-report


https://www.newsweek.com/allies-inte...cations-557283


Yes the intelligence agencies were investigating Trump...because well, if you look like a spy, act like a spy and
sound like a spy....that's what they do! Barr said nothing about Obama.
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