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Old 04-15-2019, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Several of the candidates are campaigning on Single Payer Healthcare (real single payer, not the ACA); which is desperately needed in this country. That's a much needed vision
WE need one thing with regard to health care and no one on any side is even looking at that - reduced costs.

To get there, we need to cap liability. Because liability is unlimited everything has six layers of double checking. That is technically a good thing. It probably prevents 1-2% of treatments from becoming a disaster. However it is a good thing we cannot afford.

Once we tackle that, we can deal with insane profits.

It does not matter at all what system is used to administer our insanely priced medical treatment system. Under any administrative system, it will still be too expensive because it is incredibly inefficient in the name of safety (and profits, but the bigger issue is obsession with safety). Who controls the administration of medical payments is basically irrelevant.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:57 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Doing something isn't preferable to doing nothing when the options for doing something are all worse than doing nothing.
That pretty much sums up the conversation about illegals, firearms and the homeless. "We need to do something" shouldn't involve all emotion and zero logic.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:59 AM
 
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Their entire strategy for the next Presidential election currently seems to be let us get an old white guy to complain about another old white/orange guy for winning last time.
Where is their vision for the future of a country whose economy is doing well with jobs bring created and not having declared war on anyone else for a while.
The Democrats need a plan and a candidate to deliver it.They don't seem to have either at the moment.
A Hammer, A Sickle and a whole bunch of jack-boots!
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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OMG, leftists do not understand basic economics. Funded by taxes, you say? Where is the money going to come from for that humongous new financial burden? We'd have to raise everyone's taxes to the tune of $1000 a month.
Not everyone. Just working people. The freeloaders will still get free health care.
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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"Jude meant", So, YOU are his spokesman now. Did you ASK him or just "assumed" that is what he meant?
Jude is a she, not a he. And FirebirdCamaro1220 is correct. He knew what I was talking about.

So did you.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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The truth is many folks cower at the mention of employment.
With unemployment at 4%, 96% of people are working so where do you come up with this idea of many people cowering at the mention of employment.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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With unemployment at 4%, 96% of people are working so where do you come up with this idea of many people cowering at the mention of employment.
Oh, enough already

I'm sure that in Canada you have people who are "cowering at the mention of employment". If you said otherwise, it would be a lie. Since you don't know what that refers to --- it refers to those who would rather live off welfare than get a job and have figured out how to work the system so they can get away with it.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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Comparative sanity

When the alternative is Donald Trump, it all comes down to what a majority of people are comfortable with.

Voting for a Trump in 2016 was one thing. It will be interesting to see how voters react after experiencing 4 years of conduct unlike anything exhibited by any of his predecessors.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Oh, enough already

I'm sure that in Canada you have people who are "cowering at the mention of employment". If you said otherwise, it would be a lie. Since you don't know what that refers to --- it refers to those who would rather live off welfare than get a job and have figured out how to work the system so they can get away with it.
Sure there are people who choose not to work but they are a very small minority of the population.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Comparative sanity

When the alternative is Donald Trump, it all comes down to what a majority of people are comfortable with.

Says the bureaucrat that depends on a bloated state for their livelihood. Chaos comes opportunity for the bureaucrat, more laws and regulations to create out of disorder.
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