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Old 04-19-2019, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Actually, the example of Utah is a great case in point showing how important lifestyle is in determining longevity. The main difference between people in Utah, and people in West Virginia, is that Utah has tons of Mormons.

As an aside, there are also a lot of Mormons in some other western states (particularly Idaho), so I suspect that helps their longevity too.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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Actually, the example of Utah is a great case in point showing how important lifestyle is in determining longevity. The main difference between people in Utah, and people in West Virginia, is that Utah has tons of Mormons.

As an aside, there are also a lot of Mormons in some other western states (particularly Idaho), so I suspect that helps their longevity too.
And an individual, whether living in a 'blue state' or a 'red state', can make that decision to live a healthy lifestyle.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That's because all older people LEAVE to retire in states that offer fewer taxes, more freedom and better weather.

^ does not compute.

“ All older people LEAVE to retire in states that offer fewer taxes, more freedom and better weather”?

The senior migration rate is about 5 %. In other words, most older people age where planted.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:28 AM
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Actually, the example of Utah is a great case in point showing how important lifestyle is in determining longevity. The main difference between people in Utah, and people in West Virginia, is that Utah has tons of Mormons.

As an aside, there are also a lot of Mormons in some other western states (particularly Idaho), so I suspect that helps their longevity too.
Lifestyle is a big factor. Utah has a healthier lifestyle, heavily influenced by the Mormon Church. But it's just about Mormonism. Colorado, next door, Catholics are the largest denomination in the state. Mormons are a very small part of Colorado's population. Alcohol and marijuana are a thing in Colorado, but tobacco use is very low. Like Utah, Colorado has a very outdoorsy, active lifestyle. Colorado has one of the lowest rates of obesity in the USA. This contributes to high longevity.

It's not so much Mormonism, although it plays a big role for Utah. It's about the lifestyle and quality of life.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:30 AM
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And an individual, whether living in a 'blue state' or a 'red state', can make that decision to live a healthy lifestyle.
That is true. Live a healthy lifestyle, and your longevity will increase. Keep away from cigarettes, stay active, limit the alcohol consumption, limit the junk food, eat healthy food, and you will live longer.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Most snowbirds are already retired and live in northern states for their primary home. They travel south for the winter usually during Jan-Feb-Mar before heading back north to their northern home state
Most 65 and older age in place. They cannot afford dual residences and/ or prefer where there families live and/ or prefer the known vs unknown.

“Snowbirds” have a tendency to create the perception they spend at least 6 months in say Florida, and do so to avoid state taxes.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Lifestyle is a big factor. Utah has a healthier lifestyle, heavily influenced by the Mormon Church. But it's just about Mormonism. Colorado, next door, Catholics are the largest denomination in the state. Mormons are a very small part of Colorado's population. Alcohol and marijuana are a thing in Colorado, but tobacco use is very low. Like Utah, Colorado has a very outdoorsy, active lifestyle. Colorado has one of the lowest rates of obesity in the USA. This contributes to high longevity.

It's not so much Mormonism, although it plays a big role for Utah. It's about the lifestyle and quality of life.
Yes, true.

I was reading a thread in the Colorado section of this forum recently, and it occurred to me that the high altitude of Colorado probably filters out a lot of unhealthy people. There were people in that thread noting that if you smoke you have a hard time breathing in the thin air, and sometimes smokers have to leave the state because of that (or quit smoking). I suspect it also filters out some obese people, who similarly have a hard time getting enough oxygen. There is also some evidence that altitude itself causes weight loss.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I was reading a thread in the Colorado section of this forum recently, and it occurred to me that the high altitude of Colorado probably filters out a lot of unhealthy people. There were people in that thread noting that if you smoke you have a hard time breathing in the thin air, and sometimes smokers have to leave the state because of that (or quit smoking). I suspect it also filters out some obese people, who similarly have a hard time getting enough oxygen. There is also some evidence that
Interesting, but I know a lot of people move to the "Mountain-West", because it is either a desert or the "high-plains", and allergies are less of a problem there.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:41 AM
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Socioeconomic status and life expectancy have always been tied together wherever you live.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Every single top 10 state in life expectancy is a blue state ...

Not surprising at all. They have both coasts with the millionaires and billionaires who can afford the best in medical treatment. Also, the red states have the really dangerous jobs in oil, mines, forestry, etc etc etc.
1. The percentage of people on the coasts who are billionaires, etc. is not large enough to move any needle of life expectancy. On the other hand, the educational institutions and hospitals and top doctors might....as well as accessible health care (MA, etc.).....

2. NY State has vast logging operations - so do purple Maine and PA and even VA and NC. So does the Pacific Northwest and N. California and many other such areas. I can't see this moving the needle either.

The metrics that determine "happiness" are generally higher in these blue or purple states - education, community, health care, access to better foods and services and the resulting higher incomes.

In MA, BTW, you can be dirt poor and go see virtually any doctor at the top hospitals (MGH, etc.) and you will also be operated on by the top surgeons. Even our resident "Libertarians" are given million of dollars worth of health care...when something happens to them.

I have never heard it spoken in MA "I would go to the doctor but I can't afford it". Not saying it doesn't happen, just that I never heard it. Here in Florida it's quite evident this is the case...AND, if you go to the doc or hospital "while poor" the results are likely to be less than positive.
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