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Old 04-15-2019, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Originally Posted by Ralph_N_1962 View Post
who cares. why would you want to live longer in new jersey....that seems like a punishment
The New Jersey on FOX News:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...NJIndustry.JPG


The New Jersey for most people who live there:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._the_sea_3.JPG



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...to_Collage.jpg



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Water_Gap.jpg



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...inceton%29.jpg
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Yup, I grew up in NJ. Most of it is really nice suburbs, the dumpy areas are a small part of it.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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It is typical of OP. IIRC his last major thread tried to say that countries like Yemen and Iran were 'conservative,' i.e. red countries (so to speak).
http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...es-2019-a.html

Oh well, it can sometimes be entertaining to kill time by killing idiocy.
It's really funny watching people try to blame me for posting a list that somebody else devised.

But yes, those countries ARE conservative. I'm sorry if you're offended by being lumped in with them. Not my fault.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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For those of you reading this thread and trying to learn how to abuse statistics here is a good example.

They expanded the scope past 20 years and then selectively cut it off at 1988 to cherry pick the observation period.

All that to try to convince everyone that Iowa is a "blue state" despite handing Trump a 10 point win over Hillary just 2 years ago.

Oh well, the poster is at least trying....trying to be as Trump-like as possible with the truth.
It would appear that Mathguy is challenged .. well, at math.

I already addressed your objection. 7 is better than 1:
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
If I am cherry-picking, I'm afraid you are also cherry picking.

Your choice of the last 1 elections is just as arbitrary as my choosing the last 7 elections.

But the problem with choosing just 1 election (even if it's the most recent) is that, you don't know if it's an outlier or not. If you choose several elections, without going back so far that you've dipped into ancient history, you get a good sample. 1 election is not a good sample. 7 is better.


If Iowa goes red in each of the next couple elections, I will concede it has "gone red." In the meantime it remains blue.
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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What's up with Denmark at #47??
Danes like to party
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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It's really funny watching people try to blame me for posting a list that somebody else devised.

But yes, those countries ARE conservative. I'm sorry if you're offended by being lumped in with them. Not my fault.
OK, so you are not responsible for your own posts. Got it. Is that a conservative, or a liberal position???
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:04 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Looking at the map and list in my OP, the only southern state that appears to have a high-ish life expectancy, and that also is a retirement haven, is Florida. But, Florida is purple, not red. Arizona is also OK, but it, too, is purple these days.

Thus, your objection more or less proved my original point. Even the warmer states that have higher life expectancies, tend to be more purple, not red.
Again... your assertion is weather... weather isn't politics nor cares. You conveniently left out Texas and New Mexico. You are seeing political lines where none exist. Regardless.. there is no correlation much less causation. There are also popular retirement states that are in colder climates.
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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OK, so you are not responsible for your own posts. Got it. Is that a conservative, or a liberal position???
I am responsible for my own posts. But when I post somebody else's list, that list is somebody else's, and I'm just reporting it.

If I posted today's MLB American League standings, would I be responsible for making up those standings?

No. I would just be reporting them. The list is not mine.
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:09 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
I was actually responding to Rakin's post below:
You originally quoted my post.

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The main reason why people move out of states like NY and IL when they get older is because those are northern, cold, snowy states, and old people tend to dislike cold weather more and more as they get older. Which is why FL and AZ are retirement havens. I thought this was common knowledge, but I guess Rakin isn't up to date on some common knowledge. But yes, I agree that has nothing to do with politics (or, life expectancy for the matter) and everything to do with climate and the tendency of older people to tolerate cold less as they get older.
https://www.investopedia.com/article...-retire-us.asp

Again.. unless you consider Maine and Vermont warm... your assertion isn't holding.
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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You originally quoted my post.
No, you are wrong. The first post where I mentioned that was post #52 which was in response to Rakin.
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