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Old 04-15-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Still redefining theft I see.

It is okay. Socialist, communist, marxist, fascist, nazi, fair, justice, privilege and a host of other words have been redefined also.
What makes theft not theft?

Consent.

 
Old 04-15-2019, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I'll approach it differently:

Assuming there was no State ergo no theft (taxation) I'd run a little experiment. I'd use that money and offer it to the first statist willing to kill an 8-year-old girl by their own hands. No paying someone to do their dirty work. No UN resolution. No "spheres of influence". If she was truly a threat to you and violated the non-aggression principle then it should be easy to personally kill her.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lled-al-awlaki
Mic drop.

No more needs to be said.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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What makes theft not theft?

Consent.
You are consenting to "theft" by remaining a US citizen. Don't want to pay US taxes, you can become stateless.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You are consenting to "theft" by remaining a US citizen. Don't want to pay US taxes, you can become stateless.
It costs $2500 to renounce U.S. citizenship.

Explain to me how I can become stateless? Even if I dig my own well, collect my own rainwater, grow and hunt my own food, generate my own power, and live completely off the grid, I still have to pay taxes.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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It costs $2500 to renounce U.S. citizenship.

Explain to me how I can become stateless? Even if I dig my own well, collect my own rainwater, grow and hunt my own food, generate my own power, and live completely off the grid, I still have to pay taxes.
Not in Africa or the Middle East you don't. Most people in the developing world pay no taxes.

You are clearly miserable living in America, why not leave.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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As another April 15th is upon us, let's all pay tribute to the money that was stolen from us by imagining what we could do with it if we were still in possession of it.

Personally I would use it to finish my basement renovation into a man-cave; instead I had to take out a home improvement loan for it. I could also use it for a nice couple weeks of fishing and camping around Alaska this summer.

What say, C-D posters? What would you do with the money the IRS and your respective states (if applicable) stole from you?
Repeal the root of all evils in America.... That boot on your throat and the gun pointed at your head, they called the 16th Amendment. Take back the power and we regain our Freedoms & Liberties.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Not in Africa or the Middle East you don't. Most people in the developing world pay no taxes.

You are clearly miserable living in America, why not leave.
Mic drop.

Nothing more needs to be said.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Your taxes aren't higher, you're just paying backtaxes for last year's "grace" tax break on top of this year's taxes.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: NC
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Which could all be handled by private companies.

*Looks at the US-funded genocide in Yemen as a counterpoint.

....and if it were, you'd be paying a LOT more for every mile you drive, and you'd only be able to drive places where it was economically advantageous to build a road.

*Looks at this discussion, and is STILL baffled at how gullible the right-fringe is, to ONLY focus on the negatives of Gov't, without realizing how much better off we all are.

^Wasn't it you (or another poster with your same views?) who said something about how the Democratic party has set us back 100 years? Yeah, it sounds good, but think about how IGNORANT that statement really is. Compare us to 1919, and tell me about how much more advanced and productive we were as a society then, versus now. Tell me about how we could feed 8 billion people on earth with 1919 farming technology. Tell me about how we could get food to market on the roads then (or the private roads you advocate for now) and still keep prices as low as they are.

There is a LOT of bad with Gov't, and a lot of waste, and corruption, but my goodness, you Kool-aid drinkers are the biggest threat to life as we know it. And no, that is NOT an exageration.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Not in Africa or the Middle East you don't. Most people in the developing world pay no taxes.

You are clearly miserable living in America, why not leave.
Somalia has a 10% national sales tax and was better off the 15 years they had no government.

Who says I'm miserable? I love America. I live in one of the most beautiful cities in the country.

What I hate, however, is the government, and the idea that anyone has the right to rule over anyone else.
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