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Old 04-15-2019, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Originally Posted by TomC23 View Post
You live in the USA not Fantasy Land. No matter how much you whine here on C-D, the reality is you are going to pay taxes and abide by the law of the land. Nothing you say here, or do in real life changes a thing. Frankly, to think anything else is pathetic. Mic drop.
Rephrased: We outnumber you, so we're gonna take your stuff, and there's nothing you can do about it. Mic drop.

 
Old 04-15-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Where is it working? What country around today best adheres to your tax-less society Shangri-La?
Right now there is no place without some form of tax.

It doesn't mean it can't be done, however.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Not saying itís perfect. Like itís sh***y in alot of ways. But so is the other end. So corporations are a statist type thing. People will still be at the mercy of rich and powerful entities. I guess no different than now with money in politics.
I'd rather participate in voluntary exchange then be ruled by politicians and/or their corporate overlords.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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As another April 15th is upon us, let's all pay tribute to the money that was stolen from us by imagining what we could do with it if we were still in possession of it.

Personally I would use it to finish my basement renovation into a man-cave; instead I had to take out a home improvement loan for it. I could also use it for a nice couple weeks of fishing and camping around Alaska this summer.

What say, C-D posters? What would you do with the money the IRS and your respective states (if applicable) stole from you?
Why don`t you want to pay the bills that we are all responsible for? We all want free stuff don`t we?
 
Old 04-15-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by TomC23 View Post
You live in the USA not Fantasy Land. No matter how much you whine here on C-D, the reality is you are going to pay taxes and abide by the law of the land. Nothing you say here, or do in real life changes a thing. Frankly, to think anything else is pathetic. Mic drop.
That's what agorism and counter-economics are for.

Oh, and nice job justifying U.S. war crimes.

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Old 04-15-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Rephrased: We outnumber you, so we're gonna take your stuff, and there's nothing you can do about it. Mic drop.
Statism...

Ideas so good they have to be mandatory, and the belief that you require permission to be free.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Why don`t you want to pay the bills that we are all responsible for? We all want free stuff don`t we?
Nope. Another typical fallacious argument.

I don't want government services. I want to participate in voluntary exchange of goods and services on the free market. Currently the State holds a monopoly on most services and prohibits competition.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: SGV
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Not saying itís perfect. Like itís sh***y in alot of ways. But so is the other end. So corporations are a statist type thing. People will still be at the mercy of rich and powerful entities. I guess no different than now with money in politics.
Two key differences between statism and anarchy are that in the latter

1. No monopolized force on currency

2. Property must be rightfully owned (acquired through homesteading or mixing your own labor with a resource...assuming the land and resource weren't being used by an individual)

That is why you wouldn't be at the mercy of the "rich". You'd be at the mercy of the following...

1. What you bring to the table in a free market

2. How much charity you could get (assuming you brought nothing to the table or didn't want to participate)

3. How much land/resources god/Buddha/Jesus/Batman/etc put on earth

At no time would man made force bear down on you if anarchy was embraced. Well, unless a statist suddenly grew a sac and decided to do their own dirty work.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Statism...

Ideas so good they have to be mandatory, and the belief that you require permission to be free.

Great quote!
 
Old 04-15-2019, 08:27 PM
 
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Two key differences between statism and anarchy are that in the latter

1. No monopolized force on currency

2. Property must be rightfully owned (acquired through homesteading or mixing your own labor with a resource...assuming the land and resource weren't being used by an individual)

That is why you wouldn't be at the mercy of the "rich". You'd be at the mercy of the following...

1. What you bring to the table in a free market

2. How much charity you could get (assuming you brought nothing to the table or didn't want to participate)

3. How much land/resources god/Buddha/Jesus/Batman/etc put on earth

At no time would man made force bear down on you if anarchy was embraced. Well, unless a statist suddenly grew a sac and decided to do their own dirty work.
Isnít our country too big now for such a change? Im assuming the only thing that can allow it is a total collapse and division.
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