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Old 04-19-2019, 06:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
The "move on" drumbeat is just Republican and Russian troll nonsense.

The House has the authority as well as the duty to provide oversight. They are the body that decides what's what here.
Oh, honey...


It.is.over... The Democrats will never develop a sense of decency, but they can read the writing on the wall.

 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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No collusion, no obstruction... Game over
Until Trump walks out of the office on 1/20/2021 at 12:01 pm.

The files are sitting, waiting, for Trump to be out of office.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:35 AM
 
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"Mueller declined to make a decision on obstruction charges — laying out evidence on both sides, not recommending charges, but also not exonerating. He left it to his bosses, AG Barr, and Deputy AG Rosenstein to decide based on the law and constitution."

So Mueller had NO PROBLEM indicting everybody else under the sun he thought broke laws, even Flynn who the FBI said they felt he did NOT lie, yet Mueller indicted him anyway and with ALL the evidences he had, had a problem indicting Trump.

Is THAT your theory?

FACT, he did NOT have enough evidence to indict Trump. PERIOD!

IF Mueller THOUGHT he had enough EVIDENCE to indict Trump he surely WOULD HAVE.
That is actually contradicted by the information within the report if you read it
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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The cost of the investigation was a wash after the fines on Manafort and others. The reason it took two years was because it was complicated and there were soo many lies told to his team. If nothing else we are better off with people like Flynn, Manafort and Gates out of government.

Pretty low bar praising Trump because he didn’t get indicted, we should expect better.

Pretty low not taking the report for what it says....


But, do tell...when is trumps trial?
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Pretty low not taking the report for what it says....


But, do tell...when is trumps trial?
Sometime in 2021. When he is no longer in the office.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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Now for a bit of humor on this all too serous topic.

 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:47 AM
 
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Better read the report. Trump is a crook, con man, sexual predator and either in early stages of dementia or lying like crazy.
"Better read the report. Trump is a crook, con man, sexual predator and either in early stages of dementia or lying like crazy"

So what. Mueller did NOT refer to the DoJ for ANY INDICTMENTS AGAINST TRUMP!

bill clinton lied, hillary lied, obama lied, shiff lied, brennon lied, etc., etc., etc, and you could care LESS.

Why the sudden care NOW? Never mind, we KNOW the answer.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:47 AM
 
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P41 of the report—Section 7== how the IRA (Russian troll agency/arm of the Russian govt)

The investigation identified two different forms of connections between the IRA and Trump campaign members. (The investigation identified no similar connections between the IRA and the Clinton campaign.)


Identified NO SIMILAR CONNECTIONS to the Clinton campaign—even though the IRA had used other Americans in pro-Trump or anti-Clinton strategies to divide and politicize the United States. They didn’t appear to use ANY attempts at infiltrating the Clinton campaign to damage HRC or gain inside information that might be damaging if used as propaganda...
They didn’t even try to infiltrate Clinton SUPPORTER groups and get them to overreach or shoot themselves in the foot in ways that could be used against them and embarrass Clinton’s campaign....

IMO, that is extremely telling... The Russian knew that would be a lost cause...
They would have been outed if they approached anyone inside Clinton’s campaign—
But not Trump’s
They couldn’t bait Clinton with money like they could Trump and his people
They couldn’t use greed to make inroads into her inner circle...
Because she was going to go by the rules...

There are so many instances where Trump’s inner circle (and far away circle) fell over themselves to become intimate with Russians in various connections to Putin or other power figures...and that wasn’t for the good of America (no matter what Trump and his cohorts spin)
It was for the good of Trump... the man who when he was told about the Russian involvement was only concerned about himself and the end of his presidency—
NOTHING about the threat to America, its government, or its people...
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Mueller declined to make a decision on obstruction charges — laying out evidence on both sides, not recommending charges, but also not exonerating. He left it to his bosses, AG Barr, and Deputy AG Rosenstein to decide based on the law and constitution."

So Mueller had NO PROBLEM indicting everybody else under the sun he thought broke laws, even Flynn who the FBI said they felt he did NOT lie, yet Mueller indicted him anyway and with ALL the evidences he had, had a problem indicting Trump.

Is THAT your theory?

FACT, he did NOT have enough evidence to indict Trump. PERIOD!

IF Mueller THOUGHT he had enough EVIDENCE to indict Trump he surely WOULD HAVE.



when he goes to the Senate and testifies, he will get crucified by Rand Paul and Mike Lee and others for saying " I didn't find that the President committed a crime but I can't exonerate him".....that is some flip flop B.S.


His report will be cross-examined and Mueller better bring his A Game because this is the only thing we will get to a trial and his report challenge.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:50 AM
 
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I don't think that would help Trump at all. It would bolster Mueller's findings pertaining to the concerns the intel community had with the Trump campaign and Russia. Also top intel committee Republicans were briefed on much of the same stuff the President was at the time by the FBI and National intelligence, a Republican run committee. That what is funny about all this, the same congressional Republicans that gripe about Obama at this time were also being briefed and decided to do nothing at all.


President rarely get asked to testify in public as Presidents received all Classified information and are not bound by those rules while in office. So when you interview a former president concerning issues that occurred while in office, it would be laced with all kinds of classified information leading to a report with blacked out text covering the page. Little to actually get from that.



Thanks for your unbiased response!
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