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Old 04-23-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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Guessing the words you missed are where he says “ this will be the END of my presidency.” Not hinder or hamstring the end. Why are you Substituting one word for another?
Guess you missed the part where he goes on to say the investigation will go on for years and he wont be able to get anything done, not that it will literally be the end of his presidency. Reading ALL the words is necessary to come to an intelligent conclusion about what is being said. That's what in context means.

 
Old 04-23-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Default More Democrats Call For Impeachment Proceedings Against President Trump.

A growing number of Democrats running for president in 2020 say the House of Representatives should begin impeachment proceedings against President Trump.

The latest is Massachusetts Congressman Seth Moulton, who declared his candidacy Monday, and in an interview on NPR's Morning Edition, said "we absolutely should be having this debate."

Moulton said he was ready to begin impeachment proceedings last year. "Don't tell me there's not enough to debate impeaching the President," Moulton said, accusing Trump of obstructing justice, violating campaign finance laws and profiting from office, in violation of the constitution's emoluments clause.

"He is subject to the same laws as the rest of us are and that's why we should move forward with this debate."

But Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders warned impeachment might play into Trump's hands.

"If for the next year, year and a half," Sanders said during the town hall, "all that the Congress is talking about is impeaching Trump and Trump, Trump, Trump and Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, and we're not talking about health care, we're not talking about raising the minimum wage to a living wage, and we're not talking about combating climate change and we're not talking about sexism and racism and homophobia and the issues that concern ordinary Americans, what I worry about is that works to Trump's advantage."

Sanders believes that House Democrats should conduct a thorough investigation of the President and "see where that goes."

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/71624...ntent=20190423



I have to agree with Bernie here for those who want Trump out of office Trump will find a way to use it too win again in 2020
 
Old 04-23-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Well, gee, if only there was an entire article at the link that explained it. Oh, wait, there is! Here, let me spoon feed you:

what launched the FBI obstruction investigation on the President? the firing of Comey......good luck with that. A President can fire anybody in the executive branch and name another person. You can't charge a President with obstruction for doing his constitutional powers.

Still, your link doesn't break down why Trump should be impeached......that's like trying to impeach Nixon for obstruction when there wasn't a Watergate break in and nothing to cover up.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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I have to agree with Bernie here for those who want Trump out of office Trump will find a way to use it too win again in 2020
Decent people are no match for the gutter tactics of Trump - namecalling, character defamations and assaults, irresponsible lies and conspiracy theories. There are no depths to which Trump will not sink. Worse yet, his supporters love and encourage this - the devil leading his gullible prey.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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Charles C.W. Cooke nails it and he is no fan of Trump:




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That we are now ignoring the bombshell “collusion” charge that has dominated political coverage since early 2017 and arguing instead over the White House’s conduct during the investigation was predictable. A good portion of Mueller’s report is dedicated to answering the secondary question of whether President Trump “obstructed justice” during the process. But there was never any chance that Mueller and his team would be able to meaningfully interrogate that question in the same way that they interrogated the collusion question. By definition, obstruction of justice is less an act than an intention; to prove it, one has to establish that a given decision was not only taken, but that it was taken in order to corrupt. In a traditional criminal context, this is difficult enough; within the American presidency, it is nigh-on-impossible. As the sole head of their branch, presidents are able to fire pretty much anyone for pretty much any reason, as well as to determine how resources should be used, and to decide on what executive employees should and should not focus. With the exception of per se illegal actions (e.g. perjury or bribery), one needs to be a mind-reader to separate out the quotidian from the pernicious. There is a reason that we do not let people investigate themselves.

He argues that the Independent Counselor is a bad law.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...ns-presidents/
 
Old 04-23-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Decent people are no match for the gutter tactics of Trump - namecalling, character defamations and assaults, irresponsible lies and conspiracy theories. There are no depths to which Trump will not sink. Worse yet, his supporters love and encourage this - the devil leading his gullible prey.

Do you mean the old American dirty politics that has been the name of the game way before Trump got into politics? Were you born yesterday or are you this disingenuous?



Didn't Democrats attacked Mitt Romney in 2012 with lies, character defamation, and irrespobsible lies.....calling him a racist, that he didn't pay his taxes for 10 years and the list is long?


When Trump fights back you democrats don't like it and get your feelings hurt.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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Decent people are no match for the gutter tactics of Trump - namecalling, character defamations and assaults, irresponsible lies and conspiracy theories. There are no depths to which Trump will not sink. Worse yet, his supporters love and encourage this - the devil leading his gullible prey.
Decent people are no match for the gutter tactics of Democrat leftists and the mass media - namecalling, character defamations and assaults, irresponsible lies and conspiracy theories. There are no depths to which Democrat leftists and the mass media will not sink. Worse yet, their supporters love and encourage this - the devil leading his gullible prey.

Fify.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Guess you missed the part where he goes on to say the investigation will go on for years and he wont be able to get anything done, not that it will literally be the end of his presidency. Reading ALL the words is necessary to come to an intelligent conclusion about what is being said. That's what in context means.
Well IF he’s innocent then that shouldn’t be a problem. Trump been acting guilty since day one since this has started. His actions prove otherwise then what’s coming out of his mouth. Notice all the little pep rallies he was on? Whining like a little child.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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Well IF he’s innocent then that shouldn’t be a problem. Trump been acting guilty since day one since this has started. His actions prove otherwise then what’s coming out of his mouth. Notice all the little pep rallies he was on? Whining like a little child.
What do you mean if he's innocent lol?

Did you also miss the part of the report where Mueller said NO Americans conspired with Russia to influence the election?

No Americans includes Trump.

He hasn't been acting guilty. He has said from day one he didn't conspire with Russia to influence the election. And, that is exactly what Mueller's investigation found.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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$180k spent on russian ads.......and nobody can say that any vote was changed because of this 180k....


Yea, they may have spent millions to hire people, buildings, whatever....in the end 180k on ads, many after the election....
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