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Old 04-25-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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And you know this how?
Because they always do and they're very open about their intentions. Higher taxes, more social programs which reward the unproductive, uncontrolled illegal immigration, giving preference and protection to illegal invaders, supporting political violence and the elimination/severe limitation of vital rights for American citizens.

 
Old 04-25-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: AZ
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And you know this how?
Because that’s what the talking heads tell them on such propaganda like Fox News etc,.


It’s unfounded BS.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 04:43 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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At least we agree on something, everything positive that he's done for unemployment and the economy will certainly be overturned if Democrats ever regain power.
During Obama's last 2 years payrolls increased by 5,040,000.
The next 2 years (under Trump) payrolls increased by 4,840.000.

Job creation has slowed under Trump compared to what it was during under Obama.
Looks like you need to "know" more.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/total_nonfarm_payrolls

Ken
 
Old 04-25-2019, 04:59 PM
 
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During Obama's last 2 years payrolls increased by 5,040,000.
The next 2 years (under Trump) payrolls increased by 4,840.000.

Job creation has slowed under Trump compared to what it was during under Obama.
Looks like you need to "know" more.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/total_nonfarm_payrolls

Ken
That's because everyone is working. It's much harder to get unemployment down at the end (low point) than when it's 15%.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 05:10 PM
 
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Because they always do and they're very open about their intentions. Higher taxes, more social programs which reward the unproductive, uncontrolled illegal immigration, giving preference and protection to illegal invaders, supporting political violence and the elimination/severe limitation of vital rights for American citizens.
Is that why the deficit is at an all-time high?

https://reason.com/2019/03/25/februa...s-the-largest/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1657338002/

Is that why economic growth has been historically better under Dem presidents?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-by-gdp-growth

As far as your other assertions, please provide links and sources.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That's because everyone is working. It's much harder to get unemployment down at the end (low point) than when it's 15%.
True enough, but the labor force participation rate is essentially the SAME as it was the month Obama left office, so apparently pretty much everybody was ALREADY WORKING when Obama left office.

Jan 2017 LFPR was 62.9%
Last month (Mar 2019) LFPR was 63%
The LFPR has BARELY MOVED since Trump took office. I remember back when the UE rate was dropping under Obama, RWNJs on this very site claimed that the UE rate meant little because the LFPR was down near record lows. Guess what? - the LFPR is STILL down near record lows. Trump has BARELY moved it from those same near-record lows. So does the UE rate still mean "next to nothing"? - or is it different now that there's a GOP President?

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...ation-rate.htm

The UE rate NEVER hit "15%" under Obama. The UE rate when Obama left office was ALREADY very low at 4.7%. He'd brought that number down from 7.8% when he stepped into office and a high of 10% when unemployment hit it's peak.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...yment-rate.htm

The fact is, Trump's job creation numbers ARE good - but so were Obama's - despite what RWNJs claimed at the time. The difference is, Obama inherited an economy shedding 700,000 jobs a month and turned into one adding 200,000+ jobs a month, whereas Trump inherited an economy creating 200,000+ jobs a month and has essentially coasted on that - WHILE INCREASING the DEFICIT AGAIN. Not a particularly impressive performance. Certainly not when you compare it to the challenges Obama faced.

Ken

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Old 04-25-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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Is that why the deficit is at an all-time high?

https://reason.com/2019/03/25/februa...s-the-largest/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1657338002/

Is that why economic growth has been historically better under Dem presidents?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-by-gdp-growth

As far as your other assertions, please provide links and sources.
The deficit is high because government spends too damn much money no matter who sits in the WH.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 06:35 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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The deficit is high because government spends too damn much money no matter who sits in the WH.
OR... it brings in too little money. They are BOTH sides of the SAME coin.

Ken
 
Old 04-25-2019, 09:00 PM
 
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The deficit is high because government spends too damn much money no matter who sits in the WH.
Can't disagree. But Trump sure ain't helped. I was responding to a poster who said it's the Dems who cause so much debt.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Read the report. The president is immune from indictment AND there has been no impeachment inquiry yet. It doesnít change the fact that the president lied about Wikileaks, business with Russia, meetings and false statements about Russia, lies about porn stars, playmates and campaign finances and much more. More lies will surface. Americans know he is a corrupt con. That explains all his low numbers and why most donít support him. Most Americans believe Mueller. Rightfully so. His 38% base wonít change the minds of the rest of the voters. If anything his support will continue to decline as more evidence and investigations break. The Trump agenda is a failure.
I'm still reading it for myself. It is my morning reading material. Vol. 2 references the Fake News Media as their source for evidence over 120 times! Go look for yourself.
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