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Old 04-27-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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I certainly do have " a clue". I believe the president of our country should address issues and stop bragging about himself. Anyone who is ok with him doing such things needs to get ""a clue".
then stop reading his tweets. The economy is doing good, inflation low and unemployment low and we are not in new wars.....what more you expect from the President, to find the cure for cancer?

 
Old 04-27-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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Older Americans generally support the GOP. Many of them are the same folks who are on SS and Medicare. SS and Medicare are perfect examples of socialism - where the government gives you money and provides for your health, hence the GOP base depends on socialism.

The truth hurts.

Ken
Both enacted by democrats.
 
Old 04-27-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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"Socialism is what they called public power.

Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people."

Harry S. Truman
 
Old 04-27-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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And you failed Civics—the President does NOT have the final decision on what investigations can and cannot be done...that is a lie Trump and his acolytes keep pushing—

Once again—context is everything

Anyone knows the president has wide latitude to fire WH staffers and cabinet members

The crucial questions is WHY that is being done

Firing someone to obstruct justice is a very different case/cause than firing someone who HIMSELF or HERSELF has committed a crime (say sexual harassment or vehicular manslaughter or child abuse or taking bribes from lobbyists or tax fraud) or even just proving incompetent to do a good job—



are you this clueless? Mueller or any prosecutor in the DOJ doesn't outranks the President in making decisions how to deal with investigations or how to use the resources. Have you heard of the term prosecutorial discretion?


Prosecutorial discretion is the authority of an agency or officer (President is the Chief officer in the executive branch) to decide what charges to bring and how to pursue each case. A law-enforcement officer who declines to pursue a case against a person has favorably exercised prosecutorial discretion.

For example, ICE under the President's orders can decide not to pursue a case by cancelling the charges or investigations against immigrants who may be removable. A prosecutor in the DOJ can disagree with the President and he/she can quit if they want to but they can't charge the President of obstruction of justice because under the constitution the President has the powers to do that and fired anybody in the executive branch that has a problem with him exercising his duties.



Presidents are head of their branch, Presidents are able to fire pretty much anyone for pretty much any reason in the executive branch, as well as to determine how resources should be used, and to decide on what executive employees should and should not focus in investigations. With the exception of per se illegal actions (e.g. perjury or bribery)


get it?






 
Old 04-27-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Both enacted by democrats.
Yup - and both (SS and Medicare) are MUCH BELOVED (and NEEDED) by seniors - which is WHY the GOP supports them.

Socialism - enacted by the Democrats AND supported by the GOP.

Ken
 
Old 04-27-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS for help (on LIVE TV) - and within MINUTES they responded.
THAT is collusion.
Trump ADMITTED he fired Comey (on LIVE TV) because he wouldn't drop the "Russia thing".
THAT is obstruction of justice.

Trump did those things on LIVE TV.
ON LIVE TV.


Ken
Don't believe your lyin' eyes Ken.
 
Old 04-27-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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It is the Truth. Just the same as saying he could shoot someone & still be elected. This time in history will be looked back upon as an anomaly.
The Trumpocrat Party with its Reality TV Show Host President will go down in history as the weakest show on Earth although ... the biggest con of the Century.
 
Old 04-27-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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then stop reading his tweets. The economy is doing good, inflation low and unemployment low and we are not in new wars.....what more you expect from the President, to find the cure for cancer?
What I expect is for OUR president to act like a adult & it is not just his tweets that he brags about himself, he does it at every rally & every opportunity he gets in front of a camera. Anyone who has to brag like he does is immature and that doesn't make me feel good for the way he is running this administration. The economy is good & inflation is low,etc but, what would happen if things change? He is a lone soldier and doesn't listen to his experts, he also reacts immediately instead of thinking things through, so NO I don't feel comfortable with someone like this running the country.
He lies and lies every time he speaks so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did tell us he found a cure for cancer. What about the things he said he was going to do or don't you remember what he said?
 
Old 04-27-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS for help (on LIVE TV) - and within MINUTES they responded.
THAT is collusion.
Trump ADMITTED he fired Comey (on LIVE TV) because he wouldn't drop the "Russia thing".
THAT is obstruction of justice.

Trump did those things on LIVE TV.
ON LIVE TV.


Ken
Yep.

We can all see it again. All it takes is a quick Goggle search.

Not only did the Russians respond by hacking the DNC servers, they handed it over to WikiLeaks to distribute and Trump's buddy Stone announced it was coming, then blamed the stolen emails on Seth Rich.

In Pennsylvania, during the campaign, Trump read part of an article that only appeared briefly on Sputnik, a Russia-funded website.

Don Jr. circulated an email announcing his intention to get illegal campaign help from a Russian agent.

...

None of this stuff is secret. It's right there for everyone to see.

Last edited by GotHereQuickAsICould; 04-27-2019 at 01:50 PM..
 
Old 04-27-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
Trump ASKED THE RUSSIANS for help (on LIVE TV) - and within MINUTES they responded.
THAT is collusion.
Trump ADMITTED he fired Comey (on LIVE TV) because he wouldn't drop the "Russia thing".
THAT is obstruction of justice.

Trump did those things on LIVE TV.
ON LIVE TV.


Ken
Right......like the Russians needed collusion/conspiracy with Trump in order to release hacked emails. Get out.

Ditto right....like saying something on live tv could ever amount to corrupt intent to obstruct justice. Lester Holt didn't recognize it as such or surely he would have asked that follow up question. Again.....get out of here lol.

No conspiracy....no obstruction.....all you have left is impeachment.
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