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Old 04-18-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ditchoc View Post
Russia interfered with our election process.

An investigation ensued.

Every step of the way, Trump tried to obstruct or stop that investigation in a very blatant and public manner.

The DOJ has decided it has limited power when it comes to indicting an sitting president.

Congress has all the authority it needs to balance power, including the Executive branch, and enforce the Constitution.

The ball is in their court.
You guys lost this one. There was no collusion. Case closed.

 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Schiff is absolutely right.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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As I said, supporters of Trump will believe what they want to believe.
And supporters of Karl Marx will believe what they want to believe.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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Andrew McCarthy nails it: https://nypost.com/2019/04/18/muelle...site%20buttons





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There is evidence that cuts sharply against obstruction. The president could have shut down the investigation at any time, but he didn’t. He could have asserted executive privilege to deny the special counsel access to key White House witnesses, such as McGahn. To the contrary, numerous witnesses were made available voluntarily (there was no need to try to subpoena them to the grand jury), and well over a million documents were disclosed, including voluminous notes of meetings between the president and his White House counsel.
Most important, the special counsel found that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and that the president’s frustration wasn’t over fear of guilt — the typical motivation for obstruction — but that the investigation was undermining his ability to govern the country. The existence of such a motive is a strong counter to evidence of a corrupt intent, critical because corrupt intent must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in an obstruction case.

he later concludes:


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In his report, Mueller didn’t resolve the issue. If he had been satisfied that there was no obstruction crime, he said, he would have so found. He claimed he wasn’t satisfied. Yet he was also not convinced that there was sufficient proof to charge. Therefore, he made no decision, leaving it to Attorney General William Barr to find that there was no obstruction.
This is unbecoming behavior for a prosecutor and an outrageous shifting of the burden of proof: The constitutional right of every American to force the government to prove a crime has been committed, rather than to have to prove his or her own innocence.

I hope for Mueller's case he better come prepared when he testifies in Congress, Republicans are going to question him and grill him.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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The official end of the witch hunt.
Moving on to the impeachment.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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As I said, supporters of Trump will believe what they want to believe.
Ummm...that's a actually what happened.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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According to NBC News, the Mueller report is 'Falling with a Thud' for Democrats right now.
Disappointed NBC: Mueller Report ‘Falling With A Thud’ for Democrats

During the NBC News Special Report following the release of the Mueller report on Thursday, Nightly News anchor Lester Holt lamented “both volumes of this report likely falling with a thud for a lot of Democrats right now.” Capitol Hill correspondent Kasie Hunt agreed: “It did land with a thud, Lester, that’s right.”

Hahahaha. Their pundit Chuck Todd has had a complete meltdown over it. It's amusing to watch.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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Russia interfered with our election process.

An investigation ensued.

Every step of the way, Trump tried to obstruct or stop that investigation in a very blatant and public manner.
Being pizzed off about being falsely accused and loudly proclaiming your innocence is now called Obstruction by Democrats.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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Schiff is absolutely right.

Shiff has his own worries now. Things he said have been proven to be not true.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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Apparently you don't get it.

Barr misrepresented the report, he is spinning. We know it so this BS will not avail you. No one is fooled.

The house only needs to get the report, the complete report unredacted, and to continue their good work. Trump does not want the house to get that unredacted report in hand for precisely that reason.

I fully get it, but obviously you do not. Even when people in the house/senate get it, what laws are different?
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