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Old 04-22-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post


If I was the Democrats, I punt and move on but they are too stubborn and will keep at it hoping for a different result.
doubling down on dumb is the benchmark of Democratic politics.

 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Possibly...……. Sessions should have resigned imo when he realized he had no choice but to recuse himself.
Sessions knew before he was sworn in that he would recuse himself, and yet refused to tell Trump.

Every president deserves an Attorney General who is able to perform all their duties. Trump was denied this because of the idiot Sessions.

Sessions just wanted to have his ticket punched, to be able to say he was the US Attorney General. He did not actually want to perform the duties of one though, he just wanted to be able to wear the hat and sit in the chair.

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Old 04-22-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by KayAnn246 View Post
We know the term "collusion" was the Kremlin's president talking points to spin his narrative to his followers. The rest of America knew Mueller won't find "collusion" because that's not what he was investigating. Mueller stated it on the 1st page of his report. Collusion is not a legal term. Some of the president's supporters are gullible. Glad to see #ImpeachTrump trending all weekend. He also has the lowest approval rating of any president during this time after only 2 years. It's well deserved.



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We do not know any such thing.

Mainstream media is responsible for using the word collusion imprecisely when they should have been using the legally precise word conspiracy.

Unless you're in a courtroom, its a distinction without a difference. They mean the same thing.

In any case, it doesn't matter which word anyone uses...…..no collusion...….no conspiracy.....same difference.

Why you keep insisting there is something nefarious about people using the word collusion is beyond me.

What is it that you think is nefarious about it?
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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I wish the media had used the word "cahoots" as in Trump in cahoots with the Russians.

Would love to see his "No cahoots!" tweets.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Mueller is a disgrace.

From what I have gathered by the people involved, by Jan 2018, Mueller had already concluded that there wasn’t any Russian collusion by any American citizen. And yet he refused to close the investigation.

If you’ll recall, Rosenstein made a public announcement in Feb 2018, following Mueller’s indictment of a dozen or so Russian troll farmers, “there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in” Russian collusion. I think that announcement by Rosenstein was the Trump admin trying to shame Mueller into doing the right thing, end the investigation. But Mueller was immune from this, since he had no honor or conscience.

I think the DOJ knew back then that the investigation into collusion was over and done with, and there was a lot of angst that Mueller was refusing to end it. So he dragged this all out for another year and a half. Why? Was he trying to hurt Trump politically? Was Mueller hoping that by leaving the investigation open, he might affect the outcome of the 2018 elections?

If I were Trump I would have also been furious with Mueller. For a year and a half, Trump and Mueller both knew that the collusion angle had been completely exhausted, and yet Mueller refused to close the investigation. So how could Trump be interfering with an investigation when even the investigator knew there was no collusion?

This explains why Trump was so vocal about the fake, fraud of an investigation, he knew it should have been over with, and yet people were still being bankrupted and having their personal careers and character assassinated by Mueller, and for what?
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post

Mainstream media is responsible for using the word collusion imprecisely when they should have been using the legally precise word conspiracy.

well them and the hyper partisan politicians like Adam "collusion in plain sight" Schiff who still hasnt delivered.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
We do not know any such thing.

Mainstream media is responsible for using the word collusion imprecisely when they should have been using the legally precise word conspiracy.

Unless you're in a courtroom, its a distinction without a difference. They mean the same thing.

In any case, it doesn't matter which word anyone uses...…..no collusion...….no conspiracy.....same difference.

Why you keep insisting there is something nefarious about people using the word collusion is beyond me.

What is it that you think is nefarious about it?
So now you are saying the president believes the "mainstream media" so much that he repeats their talking points too? That doesn't hold up to the constant rhetoric of fake news he continued to push on Fox, Twitter and his rallies. Now it is proven he is the fake news.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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Do you guys really believe that that there is nothing to over 130 contacts with agents of the Russian government, that there is nothing wrong with a campaign chairman sharing polling data and discussing campaign strategy with the agent of the Russian government, that it is fine for a potential POTUS to ask the Russian government to hack into the opposing party's emails and then when they do that, carry on like they are the Pentagon Papers at rally after rally?
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Do you guys really believe that that there is nothing to over 130 contacts with agents of the Russian government, that there is nothing wrong with a campaign chairman sharing polling data and discussing campaign strategy with the agent of the Russian government, that it is fine for a potential POTUS to ask the Russian government to hack into the opposing party's emails and then when they do that, carry on like they are the Pentagon Papers at rally after rally?

If there is evidence, produce the evidence, file charges and prosecute. why didnt they do that?
Insufficient evidence?
 
Old 04-22-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
I didn't say the deletion of emails was criminal just that it happened in addition to the many lies.

Yes there is not enough evidence for conspiracy charges but if you can believe that all these secretive meetings with the Russians who were close to Putin. Why did they need to lie and attempt to hide these meetings, what was the point.
You were alive then. The media were using psychological warfare against Trump and his associates. People will say anything to stop the pressure when they're under that kind of attack.
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