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Trump haters wouldn't believe the truth no matter who reported it, right? Funny how the left has forgotten how this entire fiasco started. 2020 is looking good for Trump.
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Mueller’s report paints a damning portrait of Trump’s presidency
The 448-page document is replete with evidence of repeated lying by public officials and others (some of whom have been charged for that conduct), of the president urging not to tell the truth, of the president seeking to shut down the investigation, of a Trump campaign hoping to benefit politically from Russian hacking and leaks of information damaging to its opponent, of a White House in chaos and operating under abnormal rules.
You clearly did not read the report. It's scathing even with the omissions. Mueller did not exonerate Trump and left the rest up to Congress...as it should be.
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Mueller Drops Obstruction Dilemma on Congress
It's now up to Congress to decide what to do with special counsel Robert Mueller's findings about
Donald Trump.
While the special counsel declined to prosecute Trump on obstruction of justice, he did not exonerate him, all but leaving the question to Congress. Mueller's report provides fresh evidence of Trump's interference in the Russia probe, challenging lawmakers to respond. The risks for both parties are clear if they duck the responsibility or prolong an inquiry that, rather than coming to a close, may be just beginning.
Hell no she is not Hannity she has class she basically said that Muller never said either way guilty or innocent but the report did lean a little more guilty. The reason Muller did not come out fully guilty everyone knows the senate from day one of the investigation would never impeach even if fully guilty.
You clearly did not read the report. It's scathing even with the omissions. Mueller did not exonerate Trump and left the rest up to Congress...as it should be.
Mueller doesn't report to Congress. He was appointed by the DOJ. If DOJ didn't want to make the report public, that's totally legal.
Mueller concluded there was no coordination or conspiracy w/ Russia & that Mueller declined to make a decision on obstruction charges — laying out evidence on both sides, not recommending charges, but also not exonerating. He left it to his bosses, AG Barr, and Deputy AG Rosenstein to decide based on the law and constitution.
He never mentions Congress in the report because he doesn't report to them or punts the ball to them to make the call. This is how absurd and desperate Democrats like you are.
and by the way, this is not over for Mueller. His report is going to get cross-examined in the Senate by Republicans and expose his flip-flopping and why he never subpoena the President to find intent if he is being investigated for obstruction.
Mueller is going to look incompetent when he gets grilled under oath.
1) Why didn't you do a thorough investigation for you to determine if the President committed obstruction? We paid you millions of dollars, gave you unlimited subpoena powers and 2 years,,,,,, why can't you make the judgment?
There was a conspiracy to frame the President. In that case, there is literally NOTHING he could do that would constitute obstruction of justice. Every response to a crooked prosecution is justified. Preventing the conviction of the innocent is the precise opposite of obstruction of justice. It is the achievement of justice.
There was a conspiracy to frame the President. In that case, there is literally NOTHING he could do that would constitute obstruction of justice. Every response to a crooked prosecution is justified. Preventing the conviction of the innocent is the precise opposite of obstruction of justice. It is the achievement of justice.
The question that should be asked is on what basis was the FISA warrant issued and who knew about it. The American people deserve to know the truth since they paid for this investigation.
Mueller didn't mention that in his report and he better know some answers when he goes to Congress to testify under oath. I know Ran Paul and other Republicans will put him on the spot and grill him.
You clearly did not read the report. It's scathing even with the omissions. Mueller did not exonerate Trump and left the rest up to Congress...as it should be.
Agree. Some seem to prefer that others do not read.
From the Report:
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Fourth, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.
Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.
The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.
Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.
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The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law.
OK- because Trumpers insist on arguing that the Mueller Report does not say what it says, parts of which have been accurately quoted here by many, it is clear that none of the naysayers have read the report.
Why haven't you read it? Too lazy? Don't know how - or haven't bothered - to download?
Hey, I'm gonna help you out. Here is a link to an easy, fast, searchable download of the entire report:
My older laptop with a sketchy hard drive easily accessed, downloaded to Adobe and then saved to a searchable Adobe pdf in three minutes.
You can even copy and paste the actual text into your posts on CD instead of paraphrasing and possibly mischaracterizing meaning and intent. Won't that be great? At least, then, we'll all be discussing the same set of words.
So, please, STOP ARGUING THE OBVIOUS when it is clear none of you have read one page of this report.
There is a ton of evidence of Russian interference - a ton of it. There is a ton of evidence of Trump associates lying. A ton of it. There is a ton of evidence of Trump himself obstructing and telling others to obstruct - and cooperate with the Russians.
It is all in the report - read it - and then come back to argue your points based on fact - not mischaracterized r-wing sound bites which contribute nothing to the discussion other than tell the world you are uninformed.
OK- because Trumpers insist on arguing that the Mueller Report does not say what it says, parts of which have been accurately quoted here by many, it is clear that none of the naysayers have read the report.
Why haven't you read it? Too lazy? Don't know how or haven't bothered to download?
Hey, I'm gonna help you out. Here is a link to an easy, fast, searchable download of the entire report:
You can even copy and paste the actual text in your posts on CD instead of paraphrasing and possibly mischaracterizing the actual words. Won't that be great?
My older laptop with a sketchy hard drive easily accessed, downloaded to Adobe and then saved to a searchable Adobe pdf in three minutes.
So, please, STOP ARGUING THE OBVIOUS when it is clear none of you have read one page of this report.
There is a ton of evidence of Russian interference - a ton of it. There is a ton of evidence of Trump associates lying. A ton of it. There is a ton of evidence of Trump himself obstructing and telling others to obstruct - and cooperate with the Russians.
It is all in the report - read it - and then come back and say Mueller report is a witch hunt, set up, all his evidence is fake, etc.
Argue your points based on fact - not mischaracterized r-wing sound bites which contribute nothing to the discussion other than tell the world you are uninformed.
Here's a worthwhile searchable:
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"In this investigation, the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference.
But the evidence does point to a range of other possible personal motives animating the President's conduct.
These include concerns that continued investigation would call into question the legitimacy of his election and potential uncertainty about whether certain events—such as advance notice of WikiLeaks's release of hacked information or the June 9, 2016 meeting between senior campaign officials and Russians—could be seen as criminal activity by the President, his campaign, or his family.
Agree. Some seem to prefer that others do not read.
From the Report:
Mueller clearly passed the torch to Congress on this issue and Congress has a Constitutional obligation to move forward.
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