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Old 04-16-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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lol.........what a clueless post. Religion is very ill in America (way down from what it was 100 years ago). But that's VERY different from Europe, where it's on life support.

(And this is from the leftists at Pew: https://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/...e-and-country/)
And there's nothing wrong with that per se. It doesn't mean people want to see historic buildings demolished though just because they were originally religious buildings.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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As I said, today's architecture is horrid. But society as a whole doesn't feel that way.
Then you should support preserving notable architectural structures from past centuries.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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Can you identify even one new building that was built in the last forty years in the Gothic or high medieval style?? I wish we WERE building them. But we are not.
But this isn't a new building, it would be a restoration of an old building.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:15 AM
 
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So by that logic the US must be an anti-christian country because of church burnings in Louisiana.
Lol, you just can’t make this stuff up, right??

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As I said, today's architecture is horrid. But society as a whole doesn't feel that way.
Society has no say on what architects decide to design.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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But this isn't a new building, it would be a restoration of an old building.
Correct. Much of the structure is still intact such as the iconic bell towers.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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lol.........what a clueless post. Religion is very ill in America (way down from what it was 100 years ago). But that's VERY different from Europe, where it's on life support.

(And this is from the leftists at Pew: https://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/...e-and-country/)
I said most Christians in US are cultural Christians, but that's cool. No need to explain yourself. Sniping from the sidelines is fine.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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It was only a piece of wood from the cross. Whether or not the relics have been proven to be authentic is rather irrelevant to people who believe. Believing unproven things is part of every religion.



Finally, common sense prevails over religion. Thank you for your post!
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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If it's an HISTORICAL icon, well, the rebuilt one won't be old. So that makes no sense.

A religious icon?? Well, Christianity is dying in France. The original reason for building it was to literally and figuratively point the way to God. But as John Lennon said, God is now dead. So THAT makes no sense.

The only POSSIBLE reason to rebuild it is architectural, and we seem to have moved on waaaaay beyond that style in society. We no longer build in the high medieval or Gothic style; we don't like it. So I'm not sure THAT makes much sense either.
The building has historic value, if only to illustrate how structures worked prior to the industrial revolution. In this instance, the history of construction spans 900 years, illustrating methods that cannot even be imagined today.

Regardless of whether Lennon or Napoleon declare the end of religion, it always comes back. Today is just a blink in the spectrum of civilization and religion.
"The French Revolution had a devastating affect on the Catholic Church, as well as religion itself throughout the nation of France. The Enlightenment had secured the idea that reason was to be worshiped more so than God, and when these ideals met with the radical thoughts inside the mind of Maximilian Robespierre (1758-1794), the church had no chance of survival in Revolutionary France.

Interestingly enough the atheistic and deistic ideals of the Enlightenment which brought down the church in the first place would in turn be the same ideals that brought it back into power. In his first substantial political maneuver Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821), a man who was not known for being religious, would bring back out of revolutionary exile the Catholic Church in France. This action secured Napoleon’s place as a politician, showing that he could be a leader in areas other than the battlefield."
https://www.armstrong.edu/history-jo...nder-the-reign
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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The damage is minimal. The roof is gone, but only a small section of the vault collapsed. The stone structure itself is fine. The spire was scheduled for replacement anyway. Only one of the stained glass windows was destroyed. The altar, cross, religious relics, artwork - all rescued or had been removed prior to the fire as part of the construction prep.

So, no need to speculate on what will be built "on top of" or "instead of". It's still there.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Finally, common sense prevails over religion. Thank you for your post!
I never said it was right or wrong. Of course such things are unproven. It doesn't mean one's beliefs are irrelevant or shouldn't be respected.
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