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You do know all profits made by foreign governments staying at Trump hotels are donated to the Treasury Department?
Actually there is no accounting for it. The Trump organization makes a few small donations without the documents to back it up. That is not a legal shield.
It is an unsubstantiated claim only. Let's see how the courts view it, there is at least one lawsuit with standing on the matter of the Trump hotel DC in court.
Thousands and thousands of lies, and you guys still don't get it, do you?
They lie. The will say anything, do anything, and promise anything in order to enrich themselves. Including burning America to the ground.
These people are Charlatans. Frauds. Crooks. They have NO moral compass. No ethics. No sense of anything other than self.
Several law suits have been filed over Trump family emoluments and are currently going through the courts. THAT is what will determine whether any revenue they receive from using their office to direct buyers to their investments is legal. Nothing else. Especially not statements from their own crime family.
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Actually there is no accounting for it. The Trump organization makes a few small donations without the documents to back it up. That is not a legal shield.
It is an unsubstantiated claim only. Let's see how the courts view it, there is at least one lawsuit with standing on the matter of the Trump hotel DC in court.
I'm not sure anything will make a difference to folks like ...
Some members here haven't even bothered to read the linked piece in the OP. Quite odd.
Trump's Narrow Definition of Emoluments Rejected by Judge
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President Donald Trump’s narrow definition of an “emolument” failed to win him an escape from a lawsuit by almost 200 Congressional Democrats who claim the president is violating the Constitution by doing business with foreign governments.
...Trump’s definition “disregards the ordinary meaning of the term as set forth in the vast majority of Founding-era dictionaries,” Sullivan said in his ruling. The judge also said Trump’s definition “is inconsistent with the text, structure, historical interpretation, adoption, and purpose of the clause; and is contrary to executive branch practice over the course of many years.”
...Trump said he stepped down from running his $3 billion empire but retained his ownership interests, a decision the Democrats say violates the Foreign Emoluments clause because he’s getting payments from foreign governments without congressional approval.
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You do know all profits made by foreign governments staying at Trump hotels are donated to the Treasury Department?
You do know that right?
Trump isn't making any money from foreign governments staying at Trump hotels, so this whole idea of this being an emoluments clause violation was always complete nonsense.
You do know you've supplied no factual support for your claims, right?
Pursuant to the Clause, certain federal officials, including the President, shall not “accept” an “Emolument” from “any King, Prince, or foreign State” without “the Consent of the Congress.” U.S Const. art. I, § 9, cl. 8. In Count I, plaintiffs seek declaratory relief pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2201 in the form of a declaratory judgment stating that the President is violating the Clause when he accepts Emoluments from foreign states without first seeking the consent of Congress. Am. Compl., ECF No. 14 ¶¶ 85-86. In Count II, plaintiffs seek injunctive relief pursuant to the Court’s inherent authority to grant equitable relief and pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1331 in the form of a Court order enjoining the President from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever” from a foreign state without obtaining “the Consent of the Congress.” Id. ¶ 92.
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Factual Background
Plaintiffs allege that the President “has a financial interest in vast business holdings around the world that engage in dealings with foreign governments and receive benefits from those governments.” Am. Compl., ECF No. 14 ¶ 2. In particular, the President owns “more than 500 separate entities–hotels, golf courses, media properties, books, management companies, residential and commercial buildings, . . . airplanes and a profusion of shell companies set up to capitalize on licensing deals.” Id. ¶ 34 (internal quotation mark omitted). Since being elected President, he has “not divested or otherwise given up his ownership interest in his worldwide business holdings.” Id. ¶ 36.
As a result of his financial interests, plaintiffs allege the President has accepted, and will accept in the future, Emoluments from foreign states. Id. ¶ 37. Indeed, the President has acknowledged “that his businesses receive funds and make a profit from payments by foreign governments, and that they will continue to do so while he is President.” Id. Public reporting has also confirmed this to be the case. Id.
Plaintiffs allege that “[t]hese various benefits from foreign governments—payments, loans, permits, exemptions, policy changes, and intellectual property rights—constitute prohibited ‘Emolument[s]’ and/or ‘present[s]’ under the Foreign Emoluments Clause . . . .” Id. ¶ 38 (citation omitted). Specifically, the President has allegedly accepted valuable intellectual property rights from the Chinese government without seeking and obtaining the consent of Congress. Id. ¶¶ 44-50. The President has also allegedly accepted payments for hotel rooms and events from foreign diplomats and from foreign lobbying groups paid for by foreign governments without seeking and obtaining the consent of Congress. Id. ¶¶ 52-57. The President has allegedly accepted payments from foreign governments derived from real estate holdings, id. ¶¶ 58-62, as well as licensing fees paid by foreign governments for “The Apprentice,” id. ¶¶ 63-65, all without seeking and obtaining the consent of Congress, id. ¶¶ 59, 62, 65. Finally, the President has allegedly accepted regulatory benefits from foreign governments without seeking and obtaining the consent of Congress. Id. ¶¶ 66-67.
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Accordingly, adjudicating this case ensures that the President fulfills his duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” U.S. Const. art. II, § 3, and consistent with his oath of office to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 8.
The gloves are off for the Democrats. Everything they've tried to invalidate the election has gone down in flames.
Now Leftist crybabies are simply causing trouble where they can.
Sounds like the judge voted for Hillary too! Here's the bottom line-----President Trump will serve a second term in spite of the interference by the Left.
Sounds like the judge voted for Hillary too! Here's the bottom line-----President Trump will serve a second term in spite of the interference by the Left.
Allow me to quote the bottom line here:
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Conclusion
For the reasons discussed above, the Court finds that:
(1) plaintiffs have stated a claim against the President for allegedly violating the Foreign Emoluments Clause;
(2) plaintiffs have a cause of action to seek injunctive relief against the President; and (3) the injunctive relief sought is constitutional. The Court therefore DENIES the portions of the motion to dismiss that were deferred in the Court’s prior Order. An appropriate Order accompanies this Memorandum Opinion.
SO ORDERED.
Signed: Emmet G. Sullivan
United States District Judge
April 30, 2016
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