US girl dies after four-year-old brother accidentally shoots her (stats, school, education)

[jjrose]

Originally Posted by madison999

What if the legal owner legally loaned it to the negligent party?

The the negligent party should be charged. In this case the parent was the negligent party for leaving the gun unsecured in the console of the car.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

This is one of the bigger problems with our gun overload society. Any stupid idiot can own a gun.

Tell me about it.

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[atltechdude]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Maybe they need the death penalty. Because you know, gun = bad!

That’s all you have? An absurd straw man?

In this case their behavior with a gun was indeed bad.

Why is that so hard for you to accept?

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

In this case their behavior with a gun was indeed bad.

Almost as bad as this:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/85142730-132.html

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

This is yet another example of the reality that the gun nuts do not want to acknowledge.

More guns is not always better.

Statistically, having a gun with children means a greater likelihood of an unintended death (accident, suicide, domestic disturbance, etc) like this than the chance of the gun being used to successfully protect the family from a threat.

No we admit that it's the uneducated parents (will you)?....however, when you remove suicide, we are only talking about 15K deaths a year.....so, instead of them mean bad gun.....

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by madison999

What if the legal owner legally loaned it to the negligent party?

What's the difference? Be specific.

[atltechdude]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

No we admit that it's the uneducated parents (will you)?....however, when you remove suicide, we are only talking about 15K deaths a year.....so, instead of them mean bad gun.....

If you can’t accept facts then we can’t have a rational discussion.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

If you can’t accept facts then we can’t have a rational discussion.

What facts?

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Statistically not putting a child into a vehicle drops their vehicle accident death rate to zero. Statistically, having stupid parents puts a child at risk.

And who hands the keys to the car to their 4 year old?

[atltechdude]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

What facts?

The fact I mentioned that statically more children are harmed by the presence of a gun than they are protected by it. Your first word in response to me was “no”, I took that to mean you were disputing that.