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Old 04-16-2019, 05:39 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
As long as you can deal with facts and accept the reality of the well researched statistics I referenced, I have no problem with you teaching your children whatever you prefer about guns.

If you feel that in your household guns are not a threat because of the education you have conveyed about them, I'm not going to dispute that.

The general statistic holds, children are on average more threatened by a gun in the household than they are from a criminal who the gun might defend against.
Statistics
What does the CDC report say for accidental/negligent death involving a firearm?


461 total.
Age brackets as follows.
Under 1: 1
1-4: 22
5-14: 26
15-24: 109
25-34: 63
35-44: 61
45-54: 44
55-64: 49
65-74: 16
75-84: 6
85 and over: 1

Statistics indeed...

Compared to accidents/negligence with a car...
Its right there in the CDC report...
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Old 04-16-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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This is yet another example of the reality that the gun nuts do not want to acknowledge.

More guns is not always better.

Statistically, having a gun with children means a greater likelihood of an unintended death (accident, suicide, domestic disturbance, etc) like this than the chance of the gun being used to successfully protect the family from a threat.
Home swimming pools kill more children than guns.
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Old 04-16-2019, 06:16 AM
 
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every time things like this come up, those of us that are truly responsible gun owners will tell everyone that the best way to prevent things like this are to EDUCATE the children in the house about guns. teach them gun safety at an early age, mostly to leave the guns alone at that age because of what they can do.


and then the gun grabbers come back with you shouldnt teach children anything about guns for what ever reason they can make up, usually a stupid one. as a result things like this keep happening.


Exactly. Kids being kids, generally the more they know about something the less they really care. It got to a point with my daughter growing up, if she walked into my shop and I was cleaning a gun she didn't even give it a second glance.


Hid it from them and they will be curious, and will find a way to get ahold of it.
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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And who hands the keys to the car to their 4 year old?
Kids have put running parked cars into gear plenty of times. What's static, moron parents.
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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You should have that up where small children can't get it, not under the sink.
That's what door catches are for. This isn't 1950.
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Home swimming pools kill more children than guns.
If the op wants to cite statistics to reinforce their opinion. That's fine.

By all means they should cite/publish how many households have firearms and children. Compare the total of homes with children and firearms without incident to homes with children and firearms that have had an incident. Then they can calculate risk/odds/chances.

Think they can produce that or just repeat the same worn out line of "statistically speaking your chances are higher because gunz bad"
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
This is yet another example of the reality that the gun nuts do not want to acknowledge.

More guns is not always better.

Statistically, having a gun with children means a greater likelihood of an unintended death (accident, suicide, domestic disturbance, etc) like this than the chance of the gun being used to successfully protect the family from a threat.
Statistically, having a pool with children means a greater likelihood of an unintended death.

The only nuts are the ones who think government can protect them.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: FL
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That's what door catches are for. This isn't 1950.
Except they can figure that out in about 3 minutes. They watch you open it. My cat figured that out in 3 minutes.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:31 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Except they can figure that out in about 3 minutes. They watch you open it. My cat figured that out in 3 minutes.
I heard that your cat is very intelligent.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Parents need to be taught gun safety.
...as well as common sense. Some of these people have the critical thinking skills of a door knob.
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