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Old 04-16-2019, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Good lord man, give it up. Your links are garbage. Even your snopes references say, FALSE. You've provided links that claim that the Clinton Global Initiative is dead, and yet it's not.

Look, here's the link to the Clinton Global Initiative, including ongoing activity in 2018 and 2019. Look, here's their website. Please see for yourself. https://www.clintonfoundation.org/cl...bal-initiative

So what use are you links which claim the Clinton Global Initiative is dead, when clearly it's not?

Again, the Clinton Foundation remains an A-rated charity, I've already provided the links for that. It's a fact.

The Trump Foundation was shut down for fraud. That is also a fact. And posting a wall of garbage doesn't change that.
Good lord man, why don't you just give it up? Your links are pure garbage. That is also a fact. And posting a wall of garbage doesn't change that. Good lord man, whether the Trump foundation was a fraud or not doesn't change the FACT that the Clinton Foundation was a fraud and a criminal organization that the Clintons profited handsomely from. Good lord man, whether it's dead or not is not the issue. Good lord, man there's gotta' be a reason why Hillary Clinton destroyed over 30,000 e-mails along with her electronic devices? But Good lord, man she had nothing to hide?

Good lord, man if the Clinton Foundation was such an A-rated charity than why is it under investigation? THAT IS THE ISSUE but Good lord, man you just can't comprehend that? Good lord, man the link you provided is from the Clinton Foundation itself. Good lord, man what do expect them to say? Good lord, man that's like asking O. J. Simpson whether he killed his wife and Ronald Goldman or not?

Good lord man, I'll bet you still believe that Bill Clinton meeting on the tarmac with Loretta Lynch was all about discussing their grandchildren and golf? Given the FACT that Loretta Lynch doesn't have any grandchildren or play golf. Good lord man, can you really be that dense?

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FBI launches new Clinton Foundation investigation | TheHill
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-investigation
The Justice Department has launched a new inquiry into whether the Clinton Foundation engaged in any pay-to-play politics or other illegal activities while Hillary Clinton served as secretary of ...

Clinton Foundation Investigation Could Spell Hillary's Doom ...
https://www.investors.com/politics/c...-be-president/
Scandal: The Daily Caller reports that the FBI now has multiple investigations underway into the nefarious dealings of the Bill and Hillary's favor bank, also known as the Clinton Foundation. If...

Feds actively investigating Clinton Foundation - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/polit...obe/index.html
Federal authorities are actively investigating allegations of corruption related to the Clinton Foundation, the charity of Bill and Hillary Clinton, according to a US official briefed on the matter.

FBI investigating Clinton Foundation - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-inv...on-foundation/
The FBI is conducting an investigation into the Clinton Foundation and whether any donations made to the foundation are tied to actions carried out by the U.S. government, CBS News' Andres Triay ...

Clinton Foundation FBI Investigation: Loretta Lynch's ...
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/...h-obstruction/
The FBI investigation that really matters is the one into the Clinton Foundation -- agents must be allowed to see the relevant emails.

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Old 04-16-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Bernie and his wife gave 3.4% out of their income to charity. I didn't make their income and contributed more to charity percentage of income and dollar wise than this hypocrite and his wife. He talks about caring for the poor and needy, but doesn't follow his own espoused principles of charity.
The average American gives between 3 and 5%. The average person in Bernie's income bracket gives 2.8%. So he's just a bit better than average.

https://www.financialsamurai.com/the...ed-to-charity/

A good percentage of American's charitable giving is to religious institutions. In my opinion, that should not count as charity. Most of it is to build and maintain churches and schools, which benefit the members themselves. Another large chunk goes to proselytizing ("spreading the Gospel") which is not benefiting anyone.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Good lord man, why don't you just give it up? Your links are pure garbage. That is also a fact. And posting a wall of garbage doesn't change that. Good lord man, whether the Trump foundation was a fraud or not doesn't change the FACT that the Clinton Foundation was a fraud and a criminal organization that the Clintons profited handsomely from. Good lord man, whether it's dead or not is not the issue. Good lord, man if the Clinton Foundation was such an A-rated charity than why is it under investigation? THAT IS THE ISSUE but Good lord, man you just can't comprehend that?

Good lord man, I'll bet you still believe that Bill Clinton meeting on the tarmac with Loretta Lynch was all about discussing their grandchildren and golf? Given the FACT that Loretta Lynch doesn't have any grandchildren or play golf. Good lord man, you've really got a problem.
Sorry I triggered you, LOL.

You can move the goal posts all you want, but I'm not biting.

The Trump Foundation was shutdown for Fraud, and the Clinton Foundation remains A-rated and is still going strong.

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Old 04-16-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Bernie and his wife gave 3.4% out of their income to charity. I didn't make their income and contributed more to charity percentage of income and dollar wise than this hypocrite and his wife. He talks about caring for the poor and needy, but doesn't follow his own espoused principles of charity.
and when asked about this he didn't give an answer. We are barely considered middle class, we live pretty much on SS and a very small pension plus a handful of investments. We give more than that ourselves, between our church pledge, our donations to charities like humane society, local groups etc.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Bernie attacks the hosts and network that invited him to speak. What a loser.
and I got so tired of hearing him blast Trump. He should be running on how his socialistic plan will really help this country and how it will work for everyone without costing them a penny. he has the answers alright but they are not doable. Instead he wants to blast Trump without giving details.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I agree that Bernie is a hypocrite, but he gave more than Trump did. In fact, Trump makes money off of charities--he does not give donations.

do we know that for certain? I am asking because I really do not know the answer.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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and I got so tired of hearing him blast Trump. He should be running on how his socialistic plan will really help this country and how it will work for everyone without costing them a penny.
That isn't his position so why should he run on that?
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Sorry I triggered you, LOL.

You can move the goal posts all you want, but I'm not biting.

The Trump Foundation was shutdown for Fraud, and the Clinton Foundation remains A-rated and is still going strong.

Good lord, man you didn't trigger me, LOL. It was my pleasure ridiculing you and putting you in your place.

It doesn't matter to me whether you're biting or not as you can't argue with ignorance. I just couldn't resist letting you get away with all of your BS and propaganda.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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and when asked about this he didn't give an answer. We are barely considered middle class, we live pretty much on SS and a very small pension plus a handful of investments. We give more than that ourselves, between our church pledge, our donations to charities like humane society, local groups etc.
Yes....me too. I have a straight middle-class income, and I gave a greater percentage than the millionaire who's always going on about how he wants to "help people." He needs to put his money where his mouth is.

And I also didn't care for his flippant "I give what I give." It was condescending and arrogant, as if to say "how dare you question me and force me to expose my hypocrisy."

THIS is the Democrats' front-runner?
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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Sanders is not running on a platform of making people give more to charity. He isnt popular because he is poor either, although he is one of the poorest in the Senate.

He is popular because he is not corrupt, refuses to be beholden to the moneyed elite that runs this country and can be his own man, advocating for the policies that he believes strengthens the working class. The people who blast Sanders for his charity contributions almost certainly vote for deeply corrupt politicians who swim in bribe money from the ruling donor class.

There is nothing hypocritical about advocating for higher taxes on himself. Volunteerism never works and is nothing more than an ineffective band aid. Only public funding can create a proper public safety net so people dont have to die because they didnt raise enough money to crowdfund their cancer treatment or couldnt afford the rip-off drug prices.
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