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Old 04-15-2019, 09:19 PM
 
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You can in my state. If YOU think your life is in danger.

There needs to be other circumstances such as they are acting in threatening manner in which case you have right to defend yourself whether they have a gun a or no gun.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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Boys entering the girls and vice- versa was rather common when I was in high school, in the 70ís.

Also happened in locker rooms. Then there was the keyhole in the door between the girlís locker and pool. Boys swam naked for reasons I never quite understood. It was common knowledge the girls would elbow their way to the keyhole. Some guys pranced for the audience. Other covered.

There were modesty curtains covering each changing booth in the girlís locker room.

Never saw a naked person in the girls locker or toilet facilities.

Cell phones/ selfies had not been invented.

I have no recollection these situations were ever accelerated to the school faculty.
I grew up in Chicago and the suburbs. My kids grew up in the suburbs. Individual "changing booths?" In a large enrollment school? That's wishful thinking. Locker/shower rooms are nearly universally open-multiple occupancy. No "individual" stalls provided as there just isn't enough space to do so.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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There needs to be other circumstances such as they are acting in threatening manner in which case you have right to defend yourself whether they have a gun a or no gun.
Not in a "stand your ground" state. If they advance toward me after being told to leave, I can shoot.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:34 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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She wasnít protecting herself, she was protecting her bathroom. There is a difference.
I see it as she was protecting herself


she felt violated, and a male (HE has an external swinging member... ie a bio male, I don't care what he wants to call himself) and she was violated...


she defended herself against sexual harassment
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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Is the boy suing her for a hate crime?

Let's add some more ridiculousness is.

Or is she suing for a hate crime? Since he entered the bathroom in a hostile manner.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I see it as she was protecting herself


she felt violated, and a male (HE has an external swinging member... ie a bio male, I don't care what he wants to call himself) and she was violated...


she defended herself against sexual harassment
Well you see it incorrectly. Violence is only acceptable when responding to or preventing violence from someone else.

EDIT: Or, I suppose, as punishment for violence already committed
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Well you see it incorrectly. Violence is only acceptable when responding to or preventing violence from someone else.

EDIT: Or, I suppose, as punishment for violence already committed

sexual harassment is violence


sexual harassment could and should be considered a hate crime


the boy entered the female bathroom and exposed himself...that is considered violence, sexual violence and can get him on the sexual offenders/predators list


she defended herself
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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sexual harassment is violence


sexual harassment could and should be considered a hate crime


the boy entered the female bathroom and exposed himself...that is considered violence, sexual violence and can get him on the sexual offenders/predators list


she defended herself
But he's allowed in the girls bathroom, per the school.

The school has created quite the situation.

I hope the girl's family sues the school for the expulsion.

I hope the boy's family sues the school for a hate crime.

Love to see the results of those.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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These scenarios were guaranteed to happen when folks blur the line from what’s male and female.

What a crazy society we have today where you can identify as any gender based on your feelings for the day.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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sexual harassment is violence


sexual harassment could and should be considered a hate crime


the boy entered the female bathroom and exposed himself...that is considered violence, sexual violence and can get him on the sexual offenders/predators list


she defended herself
No, it is not. Violence is violence. Harmful and/or unwanted physical contact is violence. Legitimate fear of same can justify a violent response. Hurting someone's feelings or offending them cannot.

Changing definitions to fit your agenda is dishonest and unproductive.
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