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Old 04-19-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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People on Medicare continue to pay.
Point?
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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Point?
People who are presently receiving medicare benefits are paid out of the taxes taken from todays wage earner.

Clarifying your statement. They are also still paying.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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People who are presently receiving medicare benefits are paid out of the taxes taken from todays wage earner.

Clarifying your statement. They are also still paying.
Not enough
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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As is Medicare. People who are presently receiving medicare benefits are paid out of the taxes taken from todays wage earner. There is no trust fund or "paying into" anything and many are likely to receive more in "benefits" than they paid while they were a taxpayer.
And some is paid for via federal deficit spending. The typical Medicare beneficiary receives 1/3 - 1/2 more benefits than total paid in. Over time the trend is downward.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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Medicare covers ONE person

Medicare part B costs anywhere between 185 to 400+
Medicare supplement costs around 100-200 for a good policy
Medicare part D premium and out of pocket cost can be around $1000 a year...

Total cost of Medicare for a year? 4420 to 8200 a year for one person... Close to $9000 to $16000 for two people or about $750 to $1333 for two people a month...

No hospital will survive on pure Medicare payments which means those premiums are going to much much higher... What people are looking for are high benefits and no cost... We call them idiots.... senior citizens definitely received reduce costs because of their inability to pay, imagine them paying a lot more for less benefits, that is Medicare for all...
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Not enough
It seems the vast majority of people are OK with the set up.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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Medicare covers ONE person

Medicare part B costs anywhere between 185 to 400+
Medicare supplement costs around 100-200 for a good policy
Medicare part D premium and out of pocket cost can be around $1000 a year...

Total cost of Medicare for a year? 4420 to 8200 a year for one person... Close to $9000 to $16000 for two people or about $750 to $1333 for two people a month...

No hospital will survive on pure Medicare payments which means those premiums are going to much much higher... What people are looking for are high benefits and no cost... We call them idiots.... senior citizens definitely received reduce costs because of their inability to pay, imagine them paying a lot more for less benefits, that is Medicare for all...
We will point out again, oddly many other countries make it work.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Medicare covers ONE person

Medicare part B costs anywhere between 185 to 400+
Medicare supplement costs around 100-200 for a good policy
Medicare part D premium and out of pocket cost can be around $1000 a year...

Total cost of Medicare for a year? 4420 to 8200 a year for one person... Close to $9000 to $16000 for two people or about $750 to $1333 for two people a month...

No hospital will survive on pure Medicare payments which means those premiums are going to much much higher... What people are looking for are high benefits and no cost... We call them idiots.... senior citizens definitely received reduce costs because of their inability to pay, imagine them paying a lot more for less benefits, that is Medicare for all...
Hospitals can make huge moneys with Medicare outpatient revenues. If we get to a single payer point, Medicare knows all the involved HC providers costs. Only if we decided to go to all public hospitals, (which I as a doc and as a patient do not support) would they put the private sector out of business.

As far as costs of Medicare for all, the HC costs for the younger and healthier are much lower than for seniors.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Hospitals can make huge moneys with Medicare outpatient revenues. If we get to a single payer point, Medicare knows all the involved HC providers costs. Only if we decided to go to all public hospitals, (which I as a doc and as a patient do not support) would they put the private sector out of business.

As far as costs of Medicare for all, the HC costs for the younger and healthier are much lower than for seniors.
Perhaps you haven't heard... Medicare is attempting to DRG outpatient like inpatient care... The costs for young may be low but the cost of old is not even close to what is paid in, which means everyone's cost will be high...
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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Perhaps you haven't heard... Medicare is attempting to DRG outpatient like inpatient care... The costs for young may be low but the cost of old is not even close to what is paid in, which means everyone's cost will be high...
Costs need to be addressed. No question about that. It's largely why Obamacare is a failure at doing what was promised.
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