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Old 04-18-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The redacted report has been released. See it here: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Barr just did.

Might those "other things" deal with the question of whether anybody else (i.e. other than Russians) committed crimes for the purpose of illegally influencing the 2016 election? Or committed criminal acts for the purpose of knowingly and intentionally obstructing the investigation into crimes trying to affect the election?
For example, did anybody set up a private email server, far from any government anti-hacking protection and Congressional supervision, to conduct official government business? Clearly a violation of law.

Did anybody have any emails from others on such an unprotected private server, marked as SECRET or other classified header? Clearly a violation of law.

Did anybody deliberately and knowingly delete thousands of emails from such a server, even after those emails were placed under subpoena by Congress? Clearly a violation of law.

Naah. I don't know of anybody who would do any of those things. Do you?
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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They're already screaming over Trump's taxes.

Will they complain over his 2nd amendment stand?

His "heartlessness" over not giving enough free stuff to people who feel they don't earn enough?

Start ever more investigations into everything from his trips to Mar-a-lago to how many scoops of ice cream he had?

Re-dig up the tape about p*ssy grabbing?

Try to pretend once again that our relations with other countries are somehow "worse" that during Obama?

Feign surprise and outrage that a politician is lying again?
Well since Conservatives attacked Obama for 8 solid years and Hillary for 30, Trump has a long way to go before he gets off the hook. And as said before, it won't be too long before he tweets something stupid. Oh and by the way, Kim is launching missiles again. So much for winning.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Well since Conservatives attacked Obama for 8 solid years and Hillary for 30, Trump has a long way to go before he gets off the hook. And as said before, it won't be too long before he tweets something stupid. Oh and by the way, Kim is launching missiles again. So much for winning.
TRANSLATION: RUN AWAY!! RUN AWAY!!! Deflect! Change the subject! Discuss ANYTHING except the Mueller Report and what Trump did or didn't do!
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Barr just said that he redacted some things, but they were minor, and required by law. Grand Jury testimony, classified intelligence sources and methods etc. Nice try, little ambient.
Little ambient? Is that your attempt at a personal attack? Bet that made you feel big.

Barr auditioned for the job by basically saying he was going to be in the President's pocket. He's a Trump partisan. He isn't really an Attorney General; he’s another personal lawyer for Trump. I accept there is no provable collusion, and I've said for years now that Trump isn't going to be impeached. But Barr is hardly independent, and the redactions will be engineered with an eye for sanitizing his boss to the maximum that he knows he can get away with.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The bottom line is that there are people, including some in government, who aren't going to believe anything in the Mueller Report with or without redactions. Some have participated in this thread. Kind of like Dan Rather when he said that the story was true, it was just the evidence was false.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The bottom line is that there are people, including some in government, who aren't going to believe anything in the Mueller Report with or without redactions. Some have participated in this thread. Kind of like Dan Rather when he said that the story was true, it was just the evidence was false.
I believe the report. I wish more people esp in Congress could see it unredacted, and I wish the redaction and publication was in the hands of someone we could trust to act with independence and integrity rather than acting as a Trump lackey, which is how Barr got the job.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I believe the report. I wish more people esp in Congress could see it unredacted, and I wish the redaction and publication was in the hands of someone we could trust to act with independence and integrity rather than acting as a Trump lackey, which is how Barr got the job.
I'd be careful calling anyone a lackey when one of Barr's almost immediate predecessors was Eric Holder. Or Loretta Lynch.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Little ambient? Is that your attempt at a personal attack? Bet that made you feel big.

Barr auditioned for the job by basically saying he was going to be in the President's pocket. He's a Trump partisan. He isn't really an Attorney General; he’s another personal lawyer for Trump. I accept there is no provable collusion, and I've said for years now that Trump isn't going to be impeached. But Barr is hardly independent, and the redactions will be engineered with an eye for sanitizing his boss to the maximum that he knows he can get away with.
Yep, Barr is just another stooge for trump, in a very long line of stooges. It is beyond obvious.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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TRANSLATION: Doesn't matter what the facts show or what the President does. My mind is already made up, and nothing can change what I believe.
You NAILED IT. He displays his character every single day.
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