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Old 04-18-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: USA
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If a person is retired and living off of their Roth IRA, they will pay zero taxes on that “income.” That’s how Roth IRAs work.

 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No it wasn't. The Articles of Confederation spelled that out.

The Constitution was a usurpation of power from the individual to the State and was the first American coup.
The people who drafted the AoC usurped their own power to create the Federal gov't? Ok...

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Come out of yours.

Yes, a much smaller one. The country was founded on governance by states.
No. The country was founded on governance by states AND a federal gov't.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I hope you don't drive or use any publically funded amenities....because taxes pay for roads, police, street lights signs etc etc etc.
“Muh roads!”

Statists always, always go right to the roads. It's mind blowing.

Roads should be privately owned and operated.

Abolish all government cops and let people pay for private security.

Everything else can also be privatized.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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That doesn't let you off the hook for your "social contract" responsibility to help fund Fed Gov.
There's no such thing as a social contract.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And poor people pay sales tax and payroll taxes. We're talking about Fed income tax.
So does everyone else. That doesn't let them off the hook for their "social contract" responsibility of contributing to the cost of the Fed Gov. In fact, poor people, as a group, are significant users of Fed Gov services/benefits even though they don't contribute. 25%, approx $1 trillion, of the budget is spent on Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare, and other means-tested Fed Gov assistance programs.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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If a person is retired and living off of their Roth IRA, they will pay zero taxes on that “income.” That’s how Roth IRAs work.
No doubt - I know at least four very wealthy individuals who actually pay either nothing - OR, they get money back. If I am not wrong, if the calcs work out that way you get money back even if you didn't pay in!

MAGA.....

"Even if you don’t pay anything in to the IRS during the year, deductions and refundable tax credits can earn you a tax refund if your total amount of deductions and credits is more than you owe in taxes."

I wonder if Trump took out this exception from his "reform". It would seem unfair to give people back free money if they paid zero??
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The people who drafted the AoC usurped their own power to create the Federal gov't? Ok....
Apparently you don't know your history.

Federalists vs Anti-Federalists.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Apparently you don't know your history.

Federalists vs Anti-Federalists.
IE the people who passed the AoC.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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So does everyone else. That doesn't let them off the hook for their "social contract" responsibility of contributing to the cost of the Fed Gov. In fact, poor people, as a group, are significant users of Fed Gov services/benefits even though they don't contribute. 25%, approx $1 trillion, of the budget is spent on Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare, and other means-tested Fed Gov assistance programs.
Poor people don't pay for Medicaid? Are you sure about that?

And again, are you giving up your tax benefits to make sure that poor people can't owe 0% Fed taxes?
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:15 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What "fair share?" How does one define "fair share?" Who defines it? Who benefits?
Many of us have been asking that question for years. Lefties whine about those who don't pay their "fair share," but then refuse to define what "fair share" is.
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Nope, payroll taxes only apply to earned income, and even then are partially capped the more you make. Many states have no income taxes.
The Medicare tax isn't capped. Furthermore, SS benefits are dependent on what one has contributed in SS tax, with an advantage going to lower income earners. They get a higher benefit as a percentage of their contributions than the middle class and above get. In fact, the Associated Press published a report a few years ago stating that while higher income earners started losing money on SS in the 1990s, the middle class now also loses money on SS. Only the low-income get back more in SS benefits than they paid in SS tax.
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I never signed any "contract" with the government. I already pay to help fund the Federal goverment, just not through income taxes.
It's a supposed "social contract," not a contract with the Fed Gov. The left claims that we are all a party to it.
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